This thread is very engaging
Never seen so many replying at the same time.
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Ok so that disregards the point I made ?
Oooh this is a meaty debate!!! Lol Ive got to catch up on like 200 comments but I would really like to participate when I do!!! For those who donât know I am a gay male adult worker and am both an advocate for dismantling the stigma around our sex industry (as in the western american one) but at the same time bringing light to the abuse and problems of trafficking and forced labor which ARE a problem as well as certain problems developed by watching porn.
And if anyone is wondering I find being on the consumer side of porn to greatly affect different aspects of my Magic in a very opposite way from when I receive attention online or commit certain scenes to magical workings
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Not at all. I apologize for detracting from what I think is you bringing light to the ways porn is harmful to minors, which is a valid point and deserves recognition.
Iâm suggesting that boys arenât the only ones exposed to porn. I grew up watching porn. Iâm not going to lie and say it hasnât affected my sex life. That would be foolish. However, I was orgasming and masturbating well before my porn browsing. It has less to do with porn in general and way more to do with how we approach sex and pleasure in society altogether.
Are you familiar with womenâs experiences with it, especially when most data on the subject is male-dominated? Why do you think that is? Youâve acknowledged a gendered difference, so we should elaborate more on it.
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Thank Godde Iâm not alone here! Hahaha canât wait to read more from you!
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This! 
However, I was so sheltered as a kid with this stuff, that reading both the responses of @Lady_Eva and @ladybhex are going to take some time to read through. And processing though the information.
In my own experience, even though it was only a month, I found the use of porn in my own magic had a dulling effect of my senses. So, Iâm only speaking from personal experience. Itâs the only thing I have to go by on this.
Yet, thanks for making me go âHuh! How can I better educate myself on this?â
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What alternative do you have for lonely and depressed people?
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Face their problems?
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The moment the brain is active, it is getting altered. That is the point of neural-networks.
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Because male/ yang represents linear in their thinking donât need as much emotional stimulation to be sexually aroused and males are visually oriented
Depression comes from not dealing with something in your system and avoiding it with other small little pleasures , peolle that have large goals generally donât care about much else besides frustration and disappointment and setbacks that come their way
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How do you know porn is not a way to deal with depression? I think we need to define some assumptions more explicitly.
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Pornography is a âwolf in sheepâs clothingâ trap. Donât let yourself be fooled by it. Wake up!
Itâs not a coincidence that pornography is related to the 7 of Cups in the tarot, minor arcana that Crowley named âDebauchâ, of debauchery; the Golden Dawn named this card as âLord of Illusionary Successâ, and the card is represented by Venus in Scorpion. Waite represented the card as 7 cups filled with illusionary desires.
All the cups, in all these Tarot minor arcana representations, are actually EMPTY. But youâll be tricked to see them as âfull of good thingsâ.
From Robert Wangâs Qabalistic Tarot:
âThis is Netzach in Briah, the influence of Netzach in the Mental World. Venus in Scorpio is extremely intense and emotional, often involving deceit. Sometimes this is dissipation, a wallowing in emotions, or a self-deception. It can certainly be a card of egocentricity and selfishness. And, although the Golden Dawn card shows the Cups to be completely empty, one might believe them to be full as Waite shows. Crowley, on the other hand, implies that there is a great warning in this card. His lotuses have become ugly and slimy, a perversion of the sacrament of the Cup in Six, possibly brought about by the inflation of ego. Thus, the divinatory meaning of the card is error, illusion and illusionary success.â
To finish my argument, Iâll let you know that one of the Goetic demons rulling this arcana is Naberius, which has the powers to, according to C. Hargrove, âcreate confusionâ and cause âcasual deceitâ.
Some â7 of Cupsâ keywords:
- Attachments
- Addiction
- Fantasies
- Delusions
- Opportunity
- Deception
So, take the red pill and see through the disguise used by the predator.
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Why is our society so fucked up now ? Cause eveyones brain is so fried from phones porn and short stimulating tiktok videos that they need instant gratification from everything , and when they donât get it they get aggravated and depressed , and porn is the worst artificial stimulator of them all . Just apart of the world we live in or comparing ourselves to everyone we see online and worrying and bullshit that makes our brain and logical minds go nuts
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When was society not fucked up?
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Early man age
I said that
Some of the videos make me think i am in heaven
The sad reality is most movies depict or hint of porn and that makes most of us excited and start jerking off
Even if i quit porn i cannot quit masturbation
I had strong fetish at the age of 4 and i jerked off long before i watched my first porn.
Society wasnât fucked up before we invented society. That makes sense.
Jerking off can help you to get rid of your tension just like smoking crack or taking drugs.
The amount of fucked up can increase or decrease, abolition of the trans-Atlantic slave trade being a prime example.
I acknowledge that a woman who chooses sex work, and lives in 2021 where camming etc are available, may experience benefits.
Whether those persist long term, Iâm less certain, because of the stigma - and to reiterate my earlier points about the hazards of the normalisation of porn, I am not personally sure whether the comfort of a minority of content producers who want to make a profit, should ever become more important than the needs of the rest of society, to not be exposed to very extreme sexual acts (at any age, but especially as children & teenagers), or to think things seen in porn are what âeveryone else is doingâ etc.
Since sex itself has never been dulled or ruined by a degree of taboo, Iâd go so far as to argue that the stigma is what you accept when you work in that business, because it accompanies the fact that youâre selling something which most peopleâs sense of boundaries prevents them from marketing.
And Iâm not sure itâs possible to de-link boundaries around sex from shame in any meaningful manner - at least not as as long as people find the idea of rape more repugnant than being robbed of a sum of money which would buy the same acts from a prostitute.
And that societyâs loss from abandoning the overall boundaries leading to the stigma that arises from this, far outweighs the needs of the few who enjoy making it. However, I respect that your opinion on that may be different.
My original posts here and my subsequent replies have been intended to illustrate that these benefits to the content creators donât outweigh the harms done to both porn-addicted consumers, and that not all sex work is experienced as positive by those doing it. For those, I refer to something more substantial than opinion alone.
Iâm for education, especially around addictions. A lot of things are promoted as good in life which actually become traps, and a lot earlier than the user/consumer realises. By the time the trap is recognised, the addiction is in place.
Cool. Past a certain point weâll just end up repeating things said earlier, so for now Iâll leave this here, itâs been a pleasure to debate a heated topic with someone who can make their points with fluency, and is comfortable with a big old wall oâ text. 
As a final question, and I apologise for asking again, but how long have you been working in this field?
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