Does Use Of Pornography Harm One's Magick?

[anon10524665]

@ladybhex

Are you aware of how sex work has been beneficial to some people with autism who choose to utilize its ability to earn them an income + a way of sexual exploration? If you’re unfamiliar, being autistic creates significant difficulties in social identity as well as employment due to neurological differences in the autistic mind

So the solution is not making it easier for autists to be more accepted and successful in the workplace, but just let them do porn? This is not a good point at all. Not. At. All.

[John_Wick]

I’m sure the gods above applaud watching people waste all their ascension/magickal fuel on screens , all I’m gonna say

[anon10524665]

@ladybhex

I haven’t suggested porn as a remedy for the lack of accommodations autistic people experience

Oh but you did:

@ladybhex

If you’re unfamiliar, being autistic creates significant difficulties in social identity as well as employment due to neurological differences in the autistic mind. It can be difficult to maintain a regular job when you’re autistic. Which I am. Sex work can be a useful option for those who might have immense difficulty ever being a CEO or even working in retail

@ladybhex

What do you mean by “letting them do porn?” Why do you think anybody needs to give an autistic person permission to do porn / sex work

No, what I mean is, you make it sound like instead of making the workplace more inclusive and understanding about people with autism, the easier solution is doing porn. Its like saying “Look, these women would have no way to feed their children. The prostitution is a benefitial way to solve their problems”.

@ladybhex

Also, are you autistic?

Why are you asking that? Are you implying someone who is not autistic themselves cannot speak about the issue? What if I worked with autistic children? Does that qualify me? This is a useless question.

[Lady_Eva]

@ladybhex

This is untrue. It’s akin to saying having an alcoholic beverage is spitting in the face of alcoholics. Addiction is one matter. Healthy and mindful porn use / distribution is another.

But with respect, by coming onto a topic described harms and describing your own joy in your experience of the work as though countering arguments made for harm, you are in fact invalidating the experience of many people who:

• find porn to be detrimental

• have researched the harmful effects of online porn use. which differ from any previous sexual experience humans have encountered

• realise that not all porn is about consenting adults having a lot of enjoyment and fulfilment in their work

• the inescapable reality, that sex work as a whole has an underpinning of abuse of various kinds, and that this abuse, being more akin to rape than a crime against property, is harmful in a very lasting way.

I contend that your experience is blinding you to these things, and that your words are painting a very rosy picture around the entire field of sex work which denies the pain of a large number of people.

Both sides should be able to speak out, something I can say without ceding any ground re: my own thoughts on ther matter. People can read this and make their own minds up, after all.

@ladybhex

I answered your question regarding how long I’ve worked. Read my post again.

Please be so kind as to quite it, I genuinely can’t find it, probably due to the walls o’ text we’re both generating here.

@ladybhex

It’s totally possible to love my life, work, and the privileges that come with it while still paying mind and care to real social, psychological, and criminal issues. It seems as if your approach would be for me to forfeit engagement with sex work altogether, and you continue to suggest that because others have real sexual trauma, that somehow inherently means the work I’m doing is harmful. That’s not true.

Not at all, my approach though would be for you (and other people who are choosing sex work) to not paint your experience as representative of all sex work, something which I will quickly requote:

@ladybhex

the sex work community in this and our valid experiences, personalities, careers, lifestyles, philosophies.

@ladybhex

I am happy to answer any questions regarding sex work and porn. I’m pretty early in my journey with it but am a long-time porn and sex fanatic.

[Maxwell]

in many situations, i debate someone with pure intuition. it usually goes well but I can be mistaken. I wonder if either of you are exercising that, I try to use pure intuition with everything i say, havent seen anyone else quite like that so much. sorry if this looks off topic i was just wondering

[ladybhex]

@Lady_Eva

But are addicts voices of less importance than those who profit from selling the goods or services they’re addicted to?

Literally no one is saying addicts aren’t important. You are doing a fine job of representing the more critical aspects of sexuality and society’s experience with it. It’s important for people to get help. We don’t have appropriate mental health care as it is. It’s not a creators responsibility to know the mental health conditions of users when it’s largely anonymous as it is. This is where personal accountability must be valued. An addict has a right to be informed. The information is out there, and as I stated - you’re doing a fine job of reflecting more critical concerns. It’s important for people to likewise take responsibility for themselves and their actions and do what is best for them.

If you’re wondering whether or not I acknowledge the possibility that someone could be addicted to my media, I do recognize that, and I wish for all people to find healing in whatever ways they need. I provide endless resources for people who may be struggling with such difficulties and always urge people to make informed decisions. I do not take joy from ruining someone else’s life in order to benefit my own. That’s not what it’s about, and to pretend like it is is foolish.

So many things are addictive. Are you boycotting all distributors of all addictive experiences? Regulations exist, and there’s so much conversation about porn and sex work. You could easily put disclaimers on porn sites or instead shift focus to supporting more ethical platforms for porn and more ethical working conditions for sex workers instead of pretending it’s all a social cancer.

There’s the shadow side of porn and sex work. I’m illuminating the benefits, which you seem to be having difficulty acknowledging exist.

[Ornias]

@John_Wick

To be honest most successful people don’t watch porn ,

Do successful or hard working people watch porn or masturbate?

First this is wrong. I had once asked every guy in a classroom whether they watch it or not. Only 2 or 3 replied no out of 60 guys. This is no lie. And this guy are not super cool.
So you still think that those who watch porn are not successful in life?
How are they paying for subscription based services?

Pornhub took few days to generate million visitors per day when they first started.

[Abu_Nasir]

Pornography destroys people’s lives in ways too numerous to be listed.

And, for men, who are more visually oriented than women, porn is much more addictive than many “ilegal” drugs, which will cause the brain and the whole body to go “broke”.

So, don’t fall prey for this purposefully-created-crap called pornography.

[John_Wick]

He’s measuring his success based off his formal education accomplishments lol

100k in debt and jerking jt to porn every night is success in this world XD

[ladybhex]

Your post wasn’t only created to discuss the harmful effects of pornography. It was a general prompt of “pornography’s effect on majick.” My experience has been positive, so of course my speech is going to be positive in nature. That doesn’t imply that I don’t value knowing the real, harmful effects it can and does have. I’m not going to lie and say that porn has ruined my life when it hasn’t. I will admit that not every time I’ve consumed porn has been healthy. I’m certain many who watch porn could agree to using it as stress-relief at some point. It’s absolutely valid that I’ve utilized sex as a coping strategy previously but that had way more to do with masturbation especially considering all the times I’ve masturbated without the assistance of pornography. I had my first orgasm and began exploring my sexuality before I was ever introduced to pornography.

I’ve spent a lot of time in therapy and currently have a great relationship to my use and creation of porn alongside my regular majickal work. That’s not to say I don’t experience difficulties, though I’ll say most of my difficulty comes from facing social disapproval and people acting as if I’m miserable and wretched, not my personal feelings about using or creating porn.

Again, for the record, I cannot speak on behalf of an entire community. I’m speaking from personal experience and my experience is not representative of the entire sex work community.

[Ornias]

@Abu_Nasir

Pornography destroys people’s lives in ways too numerous to be listed.

Those who start watching it from childhood

[John_Wick]

@Ornias

So you still think that those who watch porn are not successful in life?
How are they paying for subscription based services?

Pornhub took few days to generate million visitors per day when they first started.

You sound dumb as hell , I don’t even know where to start

[ladybhex]

Don’t consume pornography if you’re prone to addiction and have difficulty with sexual and financial discipline, you mean.

[John_Wick]

You don’t even have to be addicted , from the moment a teenage boy views it his brain starts getting altered , just accept how dumb it is

[Ornias]

This is a nice argument thread.

[John_Wick]

I don’t think a porn subscription is anymore than Netflix i would hope so I don’t understand that metric that successful peolle can afford porn

[Ornias]

Ok tell me how this business is getting flourished?

Lives get destroyed fine
but its earning shit ton of money.

[ladybhex]

Exactly. The speech surrounding “simps” and these “lonely losers” consuming porn is disheartening. It shits on the intelligence, strengths, and beauties of people who aren’t addicted to it or in a financial porn debt. Haha.

[John_Wick]

It’s hijackinf the primal nature of people that are lonely and depressed for them to escape reality

[ladybhex]

Males aren’t the only ones consuming porn, though it is more frequent. I, along with quite a few female friends, love porn.