although i support the attempt i find it ironic how the very entities supporting and teaching you in doing this are the same ones protecting a fair amount of the ones you are trying to harm. pedophelia and other grotesque sex acts are fairly common in occult groups around the world, especially in satanic circles. just look at ms-13 or other cartels involved with the occult
WHAT l DlDN’T KNOW THAT
HOPE NONE OF THEM WORK WlTH DEMONS TOO
Ive often wondered if they actually pray to the same deities we do, or if its a reverse sort of Christianity where they say they worship the devil but they dont really believe in it.
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yeah that could be an option too , that they only see satanism and the spirits like santa muerte as symbolic , not that they literally believe in them
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because i refuse to believe the spirits would actually help or protect them .
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Why? There are literally traditional spells for calling upon demons to help get away with thievery and other illegal acts and to hide from the police lol
They are not cute and fuzzy anime characters. They will work for anyone who summons them properly, whether saint or sinner.
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Energy is energy. Without intent it is free roam.
Symbolism still attracts energy unless it is with clear intent not to.
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And how do you know if they are not falsely accused?
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It sounds like you guys believe that demons have no moral compass whatsoever.
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Spirits and gods in general have a different view of reality. We mustn’t forget our own limited view compared to theirs
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Consider both are equally skilled in the arts…
They won’t hesitate helping the edgy teen wanting to punish their teacher with a death curse for being mean.
Neither won’t they refuse the traumatized victim bringin disease and suffering to their abuser.
It might seem unfair and amoral to us, but we also don’t have the capacity to see the bigger picture of things.
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There are demons which grant and speak only the truth.
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I feel like you sidestepped my question.
That they have a different view then us on reality, we agree on.
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i think a lot of entities are able to put aside their moral compass if it would benefit progression to their ultimate goal, unfortunately. or perhaps their actions are so underpinned by trying to further their agenda that any morality we think we understand seems to shapeshift and evade us. i don’t think any entity really has morals that make sense to us; some can be highly offended if you kill a plant while not batting an eye at the abuse of innocent people, unless prompted to. it’s getting a bit off-topic… entities aren’t necessary for the goal of the op, imo
edit: the post i was replying to was removed 
let me know if i should remove this post as well
This question was derailing a working thread. Moved out to it’s own discussion.
This has been discussed before many times by the way. E.A. also addressed the question of conflicting requirements in an older youtube video of his saved here: Worth a look perhaps.
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Hard to say. But I’d guess it’s a blend. Some may just play act, some may be wrongly accused, some may be occultists, etc.
Why’s that? You expect demons to be “moral” - and I don’t know if they are - but what makes you sure morality works the same way outside human minds?
Thinking all black and white about this stuff just loses the complexity behind it.
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Most demons honestly do not give a shit what you do on this earth. Whether it is criminal or not. For example clauneck helps people with getting wealth, in illegal and legal ways, even has helped some people to make money doing Human Trafficking.
I also am uncaring whether some pedo hurts a kid, unless its MY kid. If its MY kid, i wouldnt just death curse a mf, id break his mind. Other kids are not my problem. Cursing other kids predators is not beneficial to me. I derive no reward from it therefore its unworthy of my attention.
Demons care more so for their own, so if u try to harm a person in deep contact with a demon, it is very unwise to hurt that person without legitimate reason.
They’re demons dude. Ofc they may have some sort of moral compass, but they are much more out for themselves than anything else. They are self-benefitting as a priority, which means they are more than ready to do dishonest work if they’re getting paid for it with offerings, devotion or anything else which empowers them further.
Demons are not people and we shouldn’t personify them. They are amalgamations of energy and ideas.
Personifying them means that we grant them a moral compass based on our own individual self and belief. So yes they may have morals, but they are what we make of them and think of them are a melting pot of different peoples thoughts and voices and are not concrete.
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This happens everywhere around the world and because it happens everywhere around the world I hope you know that this is human action free will and not demonic possession.
We were taught to love and hate
and then with that we controlled situations around us people and ourselves.
If u are looking into Occult Christianity Islam you are looking for faith sometimes control.
This account occurs in the context of Allah creating Adam and then presenting him to the angels. The angels, after acknowledging their limited knowledge, are then instructed by Allah to ask Adam for the names of the things, demonstrating his superior knowledge.
You have a very negative view of entities that we assume to be very vast and old.
From my experience the “only look out for yourself” mentality leads you to a place in which you end up with either no friends at all, or at best false friends that drop you like a piece of hot coal as soon as you stray from the path that you all set out to follow.
If you wanna make the argument that people who act like that are more successful then Im not even gonna contend that, even though I think it would be a questionable notion at best, but success is just one aspect of existence, plenty of people are successful and sad.
So positing all of that, why would beings that have seen so much more than us, that have such a vast amount of experience, follow such a path? It just doesnt compute for me.