Just to give one example of what I’m talking about, let’s take King Paimon.
Everyone knows the expertise of this spirit, which relies on the realm of the mind/mental powers.
The problem is that, using the reference give in DOM, the Shem Angel associated with Paimon is Heziel. This pair is related to the 6 of Pentacles in the Tarot and with the Sign of Taurus, and EARTH Sign.
Using DuQuette’s association, Paimon is linked to the 65th Shem Angel Damebiah. Considering the Golden Dawn order of the Angels, starting Vehuiah in the first decanate of Leo, Now, this pair is related to Gemini, an AIR Sign of communication, mental abilities etc.
I go off of my journal, as always. I take their word for it and split test using conservative requests and would do evocations with each entity if I felt the need to inquire further
This walks a strange line when it comes to discerning the absolute. Which is what every Chaote must figure out on their path
Does the power come from some true sacred affiliation with the two spirits in question? Or does it come from the culmination of true belief of dozens of practitioners that came before?
Even if both yield results, which do you feel more drawn to and why?
It’s a matter of selling yourself on that sense of power until it comes down to what is absolutely true while deeply into the path. Crossing the abyss is a big deal so I’d say both can work due to the pool of belief in history yet some may work greater if one were to want to split test it
They claim to have done it and I have other things to split test so I take their word for it until someone presents their own research that they’re excited about
If such discoveries do nothing but fill one with doubt its the wrong take on it all. Both machines can run the game
The daemonolatry current doesnt “use” Angels power as it is considered disrespectful and rude and people of this current doesnt like the Gordon Winterfield book. This is so because most of the daemonolatry author doesnt have traditional knowledge about the true nature and core essence of these beings ( need to go into ancient kabbalistic knowledge to go beyond the christian point of view).If they want to understand the true essence of the Angel they should read the Sefer ha-Zohar, the Brith Menoushah, the Maseketh Atsilouth, the Sefer Ylan ha-Gadol, Sefer Raziel ha-Melekh,Sefer Malachei Elyon etc Also they need to study the nature of sheol and shamayim ( The 7 firmaments)
It is funny as the best christian theologian consider these “goetic” Angels as rebellious Angels and not obedient angels…
Ars Goetia is not Demon alone it is a cooperation or union of powers to get results.
No. It is not “rude.” Keep in mind that demonolatry is a religion, no different than any other, so some of the nonsense spewed by S. Connolly and other authors, is just as silly and ridiculous as that spewed by Christians or Muslims.
Experience shows the demons don’t really care if you use the angels or not to summon them. They just want to be summoned, and the how doesn’t much matter.
If I were you wouldn’t give a damn, you can’t people please entities like that, if you don’t have a relationship with the entity it’s important to have a safety system as a precaution, most demons are okay with it, only the really violent ones appearantly get a little annoyed, I wouldn’t care if I were you, the Shem angel isn’t binding them like that, the angel is more like mediator, the entity can’t cause chaos in your life because the Shem angel is the entity that gives order to the chaotic nature of the darker chaos entities.. you have to understand there’s always gonna be an entity that’s not gonna like you or agree with you, these beings aren’t above you, think of it like a human interaction, you don’t open up your walls immediately.. you build trust and a relationship, don’t be submissive or anything, learn from a humble place but never see the entity as something above you
I see thanks for guidance and which kind of middle pillar ritual u suggest the basic middle pillar ritual or the ritual which uses names of demons would it be more appropriate to use names of demon basically top rulers like satan,chorozon,azazel, Lucifer and belial.
Is there any blowback by skipping Ritual One and going straight for Ritual Three if Im going to be blunt about my aspirations?
How will this work with a roommate in a multitenant apartment complex thats not down with demons?
I’ve come to discover that using the names of planets is way more useful, because your aura becomes huge, and it can harbor all the spirits that correspond to that planet rather than just chanting one name for each sphere, though most of the planet names for the middle pillar aren’t accurate
Polaris, the North Star connects to kether which is the crown and the pineal gland
Jupiter as the throat because it’s aura is blue and it’s known as the guru
Heart Venus
Solar plexus- Sol but heart and solar plexus are one as tiphereth because the solar plexus protects the heart like a body guard
Sacral is Luna for women and lunar for men as in chanting names
Root chakra to the knees is Saturn
The feet and below is called Terra
Many traditions have different interpretations but speaking from my experience this is my objective observation of the middle pillar, I would keep the 2 pillars because that is an accurate depiction, just make sure the white one is on the right and black on the left
Additionally there are soul star and earth star chakras too
I created a ritual based on the prime colors which corresponded to star chakras, I’ve experimented with it and it can work, It’s all chaos magick, and not to mention the prime colors would automatically fill in the rest of the missing ones because the colors correspond to planets themselves too, so I saw this an easy shortcut
On a side note, it is possible that yesod is both the sacral and root chakra, because the moon connects to Saturn directly, so the moon does have Saturnian associations, and Malkuth would be the earth itself, additionally there’s the black sun which may or may not be the earth star chakra but there is a high probability that it is
I tried many many rituals- 1 and 2 from DOM for a big problem of mine and had no visible success. I do not know if the problem is in my lacking abilities or that the methods are not enough strong for such big things, but the fact is a fact- no visible movement to my problem. So I will try more hardcore Solomoic methods of evocation because DOM just doesn’t work for my issue.
