Banishing / Preparation

[savodonger]

Well do you or don’t you? Just looking around here on the forum there seems to be a mixed array of opinion regarding what this spiritual dismissal is all about. Years ago I did it in a tradition sense of trying to get the demon to depart. I never gave this any thought, just did it which over time started to cause me concern for its motive. I remember once after banishing I went into the bathroom and upon returning to the room where I do rituals the air was still thick and hot with the demons signature, so he was definitely still here.

Reflecting on this after that ritual I came to realise that we don’t really banish the spirit at all, we simply take our minds out of the proceedings and return it back to normality again, or get the process started to where it can then be carried through with something more down to earth such as eating as I never use to eat on the day of the ritual until it was finished. Why would we want to try and get rid of something that we have asked to help us? It just seems irrelevant to me. I do however thank the demons for their help afterwards as this seems gracious and appropriate.

I truly feel that ‘Banishment’ as they call it is just a way of rectifying our own state of mind back to the present and has nothing to do with sending the spirit back to its own place of abode, where it becomes neutral again and therefore incapable of interacting. However, when used initially instead of afterwards it appears to act as a way to neutralise your mind against negative thoughts and feelings, it will also cleanse the area where your ritual is taking place when done correctly. This I find far more sensible as a preparation for what is to come by getting the energies both inside and outside ready. It seems therefore that banishments should come before and not after.

[Mulberry]

Depends on what system you are using.

This is my take when someone asked earlier this week what the difference was between banishing and cleansing,

@Mulberry

Banishing is to get rid of specific energies in your space - like your house, your ritual space your bedroom etc. It’s usually used to mean getting rid of entities - beings that you do not want in your area, like ghosts, imps, parasites and lesser entities and sometimes named entities.

@savodonger

Years ago I did it in a tradition sense of trying to get the demon to depart.

Yes they’re using it in the transitional Solomonic sense of “giving license to depart” which means letting the entity go and do the work. It doesn’t mean getting rid of it as I use it: but then, I do not use the Solomonic system.

I have used it in this sense as per the instructions in Corwin Hargrove’s Jinn Magic, in which you complete the ritual by blowing out the candle and sensing the beings going on their way to do the work.

@savodonger

I remember once after banishing I went into the bathroom and upon returning to the room where I do rituals the air was still thick and hot with the demons signature, so he was definitely still here.

Then I would say the banishing didn’t work. As the entity was invited, I would not be too worried about this, but I would ask it why it wasn’t leaving. Maybe there was more to do and it was trying to tell you something.

@savodonger

after that ritual I came to realise that we don’t really banish the spirit at all

Well maybe YOU’RE not, but I would caution against assuming everybody else is automatically doing the same thing, given we are all using different systems from many different teachers, unless you ask someone specifically you just won’t know.

Personally, I don’t typically banish an invited entity, but if I intend to banish, I’m attacking that entity as an uninvited parasite, an enemy, and that thing is gone, gone, and possibly dead.

@savodonger

I truly feel that ‘Banishment’ as they call it is just a way of rectifying our own state of mind back to the present

Why not? There’s nothing wrong with your using it that way if that’s what works for you.