Are YHWH and the Demiurge/Yaldabaoth two different beings?

You’re absolutely right, Beelzebub made it clear to me that some angels are emanations of Yaldaboath Yhvh, but some are far greater and older than Yhvh Yaldaboath himself, and have no ties to him whatsoever. And he explained that like himself and his Infernal brothers, Yhvh Yaldaboath was present all throughout history as well, and going by different names, El in Canaan, and Enlil in Sumer.

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Thanks!

Oh, and in regards to Jesus Christ, I think this page brings up an interesting article about Yaldabaoth and Jesus.

The name Demiurge, was later used to call one of the Gnostic gods or angels (known as the archons, “rulers”), named Yaldabaoth, Ialdabaoth or Jaldabaoth. In the Gnostic myth, Ialdabaoth was the arrogant God of Israel (Yahweh), but not the true Supreme Being that Jesus had often referred to as the Good Father or Heavenly Father. Yaldabaoth was indeed the creator of the physical, material world, but it was a world without soul. It was Sophia who gave soul to mankind or breathes life into a body. Yaldabaoth was arrogant ruler, boasting that there was no other god but him. The Aeon or goddess Sophia (Wisdom, but she was also known as Pistis “Faith”) proved Yaldabaoth wrong, by appearing to him as limitless light.

Who do you think is the God or Goddess that created these more ancient Angels?

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I agree with some Gnostic teachings, I think that the God which emanated the ancient angels (and the planes, and the Ancient Gods and Goddesses) is Poimandres/GOD/The One/The All/The Ultimate/The Conscious Abyss/The True God/The Great Dragon, when it came to me in meditation, it told me that it is the source, and the GOD of the Gods. What about you? Who do you think created/emanated the ancient angels?

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Honestly, I think it is the God that is above Metatron. However, I think the Angels said something interesting along the lines of, " We serve the inner god of the magician," so it could be that too.

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Or both, because if they were created to serve the Magician, or alternatively to serve The One, they can easily do both, since all things are emanations of The One, and those who practice Magick realize their Devine nature, there is no difference, only through illusion of the lower realms is there any perceived separation.

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That makes sense, since the Angels seem to embody an attitude of cosmic balance more than anything else, which seems to suggest that in their view, everything will be made right by The All because everything is destined to “return” to a final Heaven (as in actual Heaven, not Christian astral heaven).

Thus, it makes sense that they will serve the light of the Absolute once a person realizes that their inner light is the entirety of the Absolute, realizing that there is no difference between you and anything else.

It also explains why when another Magician asks, " What is beyond the Throne of God?" that they just up and leave, because as emanations of the All, they can’t think of anything else beyond the Absolute.

However, this begs the question," Isn’t there something beyond the Absolute? Before the primordial Void? Before the primordial Chaos? Before the Light?"

“I know there are many hidden secrets and many hidden truths left to stay that way. I’m talking before and beyond ancient magic. My first question is, do anyone else experience these feels? Next, does anyone have access to the knowledge? Yes, I know I need to talk to the spirits about it, but have yet to fully acquire the ability to see and speak with them; but I have a feeling even then they will not tell me, in fear I sense. I have come to believe something is even older than the primordial, before anything. And yet, I feel that this knowledge is kept secret from even the highest powers. Any help with this would be nice.”

This is another topic, but I think it’s important because with this knowledge, there exists the possibility of accessing secrets beyond the forces of creation itself (i.e Magick), and taking our ascension outside of the perspective of what is normally considered our destiny (i.e going back to the Heaven at the end of time). We should be able to break the cycle, and go beyond magick.

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That’s very interesting, but I personally don’t believe that there is anything beyond the Absolute, and here’s why: since the Absolute is the greatest thing in existence, and is the entirety of existence itself, that would imply that the only thing outside of The All is literal nonexistence, for nothing can exist without existence, therefore, The Absolute is existence, and nothing can ever exist outside of existence. But bear in mind, this is just my personal belief

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I’ve made this into its own separate topic. :+1:

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Thanks Forum Mom. :grinning:

That little shit Yhvh almost got me sucked into his loop whole of worship.

It offends me that people think this guy is the creator.

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I think they are the same being. It’s also my belief that Yaldabaoth/Jehova is the false divinity with which Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, and possibly other groups merge upon dying. He sucks the life out of them, turns them into docile sheeple. Just look at how devoid of life the Buddhist monks are.

The Demiurge is clever, so watch your back.

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By the way on my clock, i read 11:11 just after I finished reading your post.
And I’m watching an EA video and he just mentioned what you said.

Wow.

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Yeah, Yhvh is by far the most evil entity I’ve ever encountered. It’s really sad that the majority of the world’s population worships this monster as if he’s God…

When I watched that video, that was the exact moment that any doubts I had about my experiences just melted away! I was seriously shocked I just laughed the entire time in the fact that this powerful sorcerer verified so much I’ve learned directly from Beelzebub over the past 7 months! I was shook!

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I agree wholeheartedly!

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The fact that this is happening is Fucked up
I’m glad I know whats going on behind the scenes.

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Just had Belial confirm this Just now.
He said to not give in.

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Same here, before I met Beelzebub, I was never really sure what was really going on behind the scenes, but when we started talking, my entire belief system was flipped on its head, making many of my speculations invalid, but I couldn’t be more grateful for everything he’s taught me and shown me and what he will teach and show me in the future! Finding the Truth is a beautiful thing!

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@Robert @AlphaC how would you personally fight The Demiurge? Do you fight him actively?

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Beelzebub laid out a ritual for 23 of the most powerful sorcerers to conduct which will remove Yhvh’s power over the human race, he told me “look to the book of revelations, it is actually a ritual, as you read through it, I will be with you to help you extract the true ritual from it, which will put an end to Yhvh’s kingdom permanently, and usher in The Infernal Empire’s reign on earth!” So I read through it, as he instructed me to write down how to conduct its encoded ritual. I plan on rounding up the group of 23 (including myself) who will be capable of executing it properly within this year. That will be the final battle against him.

But to a much lesser extent, to fight his influence, just burn a Bible, a Quran, or a Torah, or just the simple phrase “fuck Yhvh!” Works well too!

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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. I do have a feeling that humans are waking up. That The Demiurge’s grip will be no more in about a century or two. Like completely.

Right now, his grip is a lot weaker than it used to be, but it’s still there. It will take some time before we and future sorcerers banish him and his influence entirely.

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