Exactly, personally I consider demons as ancient or forgotten gods
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Demons are not evil. Hindu Gods are demons.
Then again neither does BunĂŠ and sheâs listed right in the demonic grimoires⌠I call a difference between entities that are wholly destructive/malevolent to man in the same way smallpox is, and those who simply existed and were tangible during a time large sections of the world were bamboozled by a troll god that tried to pretend it was the only thing.
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I get your point⌠I have been to some of the temples in India that praise these entities, and there was nothing demonic whatsoever and were treated as entities of light for the most part. But that is just my experience in answering his question. Obviously, we will never truly know in our lifetimes I do not think.
Bune feels demonic to me.
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Goetic demons are human friendly we know from experience
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This is a hard question, depends on the term demonic. and even then many of the hindu gods are very dualistic, in the sense that I have done a lot of work with Shiva and mother Kali. their benevolent good side radiate wisdom and joy when you contact them, far from what anyone would see as demonic.
but their destroyer aspect is truly the thing of nightmares, Very few of the other spirits I work with could be as scary as wrathful Shiva.
If weâre talking about demonic as how I see it, a spirit that is willing to assist you and results arenât as, for lack of not being able to think of a better phrase, âstructuredâ than angels. then yes they are demonic, Shiva can be a trickster if a lesson needs to be taught.
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Thatâs what the Hindu scriptures say, but who really knows if theyâre against them or not. They could also have a different definition of demons from the western occult.
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it depends in our thinking nd wht good they do for us or for humanityâŚbt many of them pray demons, which makes demons god for themâŚinfact no difference between demon and god⌠so it goes to hindu godsâŚi wanna conclude by saying i am a hinduâŚ
I think psychology is very fascinating. What is possession? Whatâs actually occuring when a so called possession is taking place?
Why not all the gods be demons? Or perhaps itâs the demons who are gods. Or maybe there are neither demons nor gods and humans are simply very complex beings. After all we donât really know much about the human being and what we do know we learned by cutting dead people open and looking at their insides.
I doubt people would even beleive me or care if I told you I know how to cause you to exhibit possession like symptoms. Does that make me a demon or perhaps a god?
There are two minds in the occult. You are either one or the other unless yer one of the VERY rare few who can consider with both minds. One mind recognizes all angels, gods, demons, and spirits to be reflections of the self. The other mind considers that there are in fact gods and such. Which mind is right and which one is wrong?..
No. Rakshasa is demon. Asura means powerfull being. In Rig veda Varauna, Mitra, Ĺiva etc. are called Asuras , The Mighty Ones.
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Well I am Hindu and I am from India. I am enjoying this discussion thread ⌠
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In Hindu mythology, demons and evil creatures are called âAsurasâ, and the Gods like Kali, durga, Rama and many more slay those asuras. Shiva brimgs them back to being but does not condone their evil acts. Each God in Hindu mythology represent some aspect of prosperity. In fact, moslty all stories in Hindu mythology end with the good banishing the evil. Abrahamic religions like Islam and Christianity have termed every non physical and supernatural entity which does not belong to their mythology as demons and evil spirits, so thatâs how not only Hindu Gods, but gods of many other civilizations and religions are termed as demons under a different name. If you trace the demons back to their origins(excluding the Christianity based demons), youâll find that the âdemonâ is actually the God of an ancient civilization.
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Reading your post made me remember a dumb person I knew last year who was claiming that they had recently made a pact with Shiva and were talking about him like the entity was a damn ATM. I was just like oh sweetheart lol I havenât spoken to that person in almost a year but sometimes Iâm curious how that relationship worked out lol Iâm sure none of the Hindu entities appreciate that attitude that the person I knew had
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Come to think of it, besides one i cant think of another demon that was mentioned in the Bible. I hadnât thought about that before. The only one i remember from biblical studies was Beelzebub (im almost positive I misspelled that).
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With the Devas and Asuras ive found it more accurate to use the perspective of celestial and terrestrial gods, similar to the Aesir and the Vanir in norse lore.
Through if you are looking for an example of demonization with the hindu gods Zoroastrianism is what youâll want to explore. All practices related to spiritual evolution and growth were also demonized.
All the Deavas/divs/demons of that faith are vedic gods, but through this demonization the âhumanâ masks and traits are removed and your left working with a thatâs force very primal and powerful.
A few examples of these relations are shiva who was turned into sovar: commander of the divs.
Rudra who was turned into andar: demon of apostasy.
Hayagriva god of knowledge and wisdom turned into kundak steed of sorcerers.
The serpents Ida and Pingala of kundalini become Domar and Dehak who feed on the brains of men and children.
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I have a tattoo of Lord Ganesh and heâs never gone through my mind as a demon. Hindu godâs can take on some forms that look something out of the underworld but I wouldnât flex on it.
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it seems like a pitfall most beginners fall into , not understanding that working with spirits is very much give and take like any relationship. itâs actually very interesting you replied to this today. it actually verifies a lesson being given to me by hekate about a bigger emphasis on invocation and empowering a ritual over straight evocation. 
sorry a bit off topic from the post but wanted to share that part, very interesting timing
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Lakshmi took me out of my body and to the realm where she resides⌠It had to be Heaven. I was so touched by the experience I cried afterwardsâŚ
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