Am I doing something wrong? [Gain an LTR with target]

Love, Sex Magick & Relationships
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Hey there!

I’ve been doing this for a couple of months now. Not going into much detail, there’s someone who I’ve been talking to and we’ve been on and off for five (5) years now. There’s a third party and she pretty much kinda lost interest. I started looking into this world of spirits and demonolatry, started searching, reading information and whatnot. I did what others have done, layered magic. I started with Asmodeus, Dantalion, Sitri, Sallos, Agares, Gremory and Andras (for separation of that third party).

Now, at first I was a bit skeptical and I had the lust for results. After a while I calmed down and asked for something extremely specific, for them to unfollow each other on Instagram. And to my surprise, it happened. And she’s been more attentive and a bit closer to me. Ever since that happened I was a true believer. I’ve offered many things to my group of demons. From alcohol, fasting, sweets, food, etc. but results have been slow or mainly haven’t shown. Especially Andras as I’ve seen pictures of them hanging out without me knowing.

I live in a very Christian house, therefore I can’t go overboard with any rituals, for example incense. And I need to do everything very late at night. It’s very rare when I have the house alone for me and I can do a ritual and light some incense for my deities.

What I do is I lit candles, with their sigils hand drawn under the candles, I chant their enns and speak to them as if they are there listening to me. (I am no expert. Suggestions will be more than perfect).

Am I doing something wrong? I want results. I know it could take a while but it’s been more than 6 months giving it my all. Almost daily prayers, fasting, etc.

What can I do to improve, what can I do to get more and better results?

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Your intention could be clearer, just based on this anyway…

The working to get them to unfollow each other on IG worked great and was very clear - clear intention, clear results.

But in all that text you have not actually stated what your intention for the (I assume it’s a woman) is. To what end were you talking to her? What do you want exactly?

If she doesn’t know that, and the entities don’t know that, an maybe you’re not sure, then muddy intention makes for muddy results.
Have you sat in ritual and visualized the outcome in detail as solidly as you can, all senses involved?

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I haven’t done that actually. And yes, both my deities and her know my intentions. As I’d like to date her exclusively without the on and off bs.

What I do feel is that maybe my energy is all scattered due to the whole group thing?

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There’s a lot going on.

First there’s the unclear and weak intentions, since you couldn’t articulate it in your first post and think it’s enough for “the deities to know it” - YOU have to do the actual work to set that reality in motion. not them. Entities can help but you have to give them permission by asking them clearly.

Yeah I get that too… You have a lot of workings out there, it’s not all focused, and it smacks of lusting for results - which you said - doubt kills magick stone dead.

I addition, workings are not transactional, they’re not employees and you don’t want to “pay” for work with offerings - you don’t need offerings at all and that kind of attitude is seem in unsuccessful workings a lot - not least because it emphasizes what you don’t have.

You want to have an attitude of gratitude that the working is already working, and if anything, offerings are gifts to say “thank you, here’s a token of thanks”. Be confident in the work and apply the law of assumption that it’s as good as in the bag.

You don’t need both sigils and enns - both are thier own method of contact.

Did you open the sigil and get into a trance state, and wait for a presence? Did you ask the entities if they accepted to do the work and get a firm “yes”?
They usually come, but they don’t always agree to do the work, and if your intention was supposed to be inferred from your mind, that’s not a great way to get across your command.

Finally, there’s another very common issue with these working when other people are involved, which is discounting the Will and natural protections of the target person.

EVERY human is naturally magick, mages just try to do it deliberately, but assuming other people aren’t powerful in themselves magickal is always a mistake.

If her Will is stringer than yours to enter a relationship with you, it may not work.

But from what I can tell, you’re not there yet - if you couldn’t tell us your intention is she clear that you’re open for a serious relationship? What has she said about why she’s “off again”?

If she knows you’re there for her and broke up with you, that is the problem to address - the why.

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Hmm you’re definitely right about everything. In regards of what she said, it’s that she’s not ready due to college.

And about the whole workings things, what do you suggest? Should I shrink the group, start over again? Any suggestion is appreciated. And thank you for taking your time to reply! I genuinely appreciate that.

I do want to work with Andras and Agares, as I’ve dreamed a lot with them specifically.

Edit: you’re right about the offerings. I will reconsider that too. And there’s been a couple of times I’ve been in trance while chanting their enns and looking at their sigils. I’ve asked for signs of them here with me and there’s been tappings or slight sounds that I hear at times.

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So, she’s being self-protective. That’s a really strong defense. And being already in a defensive state, if she senses, even subconsciously, that you are doing love magick on her, she will feel that as a psychic attack, making her avoid you as a predator, although that’s not what you meant it’s often how it comes across energetically.

I wouldn’t doubt any more - the workings are out there and they align with what you want, so there’s no need to dismantle that any more. Let it bake.

What i hear is she hasn’t really said no, she knows she is very young - too young really to be making long term life decisions, (we don’t even finish growing our brains and personalities until we’re 25-ish) and has asked you to wait while she figures herself out and focuses on college. It’s not about a lack of attraction, but her taking care of her needs.

I would suggest working with Foras for information - ask him to help you understand her - when you get her position you know what she will respond to.

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Sounds good to me. What bothers me is the third party. My question now is, even though it’s out there and I shall let it bake, make my intentions clearer, etc. Do I divide my groups? For attraction and separation from the third party?

And yes, she’s 26 and I’m 30 haha.

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This seems a bit insecure, which is a form of fear, and fear blocks your energy flow so your magick is sabotaged - same issue as having doubt which is also a sort of fear.

More than that, it’s letting you visualize an alternative future, which aids in it’s manifestation making it more likely she stays with another person. “What you fear is what you find.”

So I would say, drop that totally - think disparagingly of the other person, assume it’s temporary, that she’s always comparing him to you, that she just had to get it out of her system to feel like she has the freedom to choose, and she will choose you as soon as she’s ready.

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Thank you for opening my eyes. I will come back in a couple of weeks with an update if you don’t mind. I will definitely put into practice everything you’ve told me.

Edit: before I leave, are there any books or anything else you recommend I read?

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I hope it goes great and would love to hear how it goes! :slight_smile:

The book Goetia Pathworking by Corwin Hargrove might fit well - it uses a form of working that needs no tools or over ritual, closer to shamanic journeying, so it’s possible to do when a ritual could cause suspicion… and it’s the author that discovered Foras can help you understand a loved one.

We have a book recommendations thread that collects some of the books discussed on the forum over the years s well…

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Thank you! Will give it a read and look into the thread.

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