Am I a Demon?

You may be right and I may be remembering it wrong, but I believe the Annunaki were the Fallen ones themselves (The Watchers/Grigori from Enoch) and their children with the daughters of men were called The Nephilim. The Nephilim were said to be Giants, heros, men of renown, but most of them were allegedly killed in the flood because they were “wicked” and were eating all the food. Zacharia Sitchin writes a lot about these things. Some of his work feels outright outlandish, but some of it is also pretty interesting.

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You know what you’re right! For some reason I always talk about anunnaki and nephilim interchangeably silly me :blush: I hope you find the answer youre looking for friend.

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When I was studying psychology in university, an instructor of mine was one of the few certified sex therapists in North America, and she told us the same thing. It caused quite a bit of a stir in the class, especially the males :stuck_out_tongue:

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I put my take on this here fwiw, and the answer is yes, with some metaphysics to explain the rest:

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Are you a divine intelligence?
Are you sentient?
Do you fulfill your own desires in accordance with your will?
Are you power hungry?
If yes then I don’t see whats so crazy calling someone a Daemon if they are all of the above :point_up_2:

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What about love? I thought daemons can love like no other.

i belive just my opinion that working with demons or being close to them you might be able to absorb demonic energy and be half demon (your spirit) kinda like a sponge you take in or the energy rubbed off on you and you become it in a way if that makes sense

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Between my periods of mortality, i am involved in doing thing, i am active, learning, progressing and associating. Also, being a Demon is not a “Horrible bad, evil loving thing- nor is it a permenent state”. i may, a hundred lives before had been a God, in fact, the only real differance between the 2, is Spelling; neither is better or worse than the other, so maybe I phrased it wrong. You clearly see a difference between them, I do not. i know it is fun for people to “go Dark” and be all evil and feel all devily, but if they want to really be impressive, there is quite a long list of “Gods” who will fill the bill far better. Why do I think this? Been recieving alot of data- about me, both mortal and during my not mortal states, some is abit piecemeal, so i am working with what I have in order to be more maleable and more proficient is making the most out of this [bio-cycle- as I call mortality] .

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Other than “Power Hugry” checked yes on all the others. Well, still working on the desires part, 40 years as a christian priest theologian has left alot of unseen “Malwares” still to scan out and replace. :zap:

Makes alot of sence. O fear/feel alot of folk kinda have this belief that this mortal experiance and what comes next is the last dance. I spent decades trying everyway possible to make that make any sense at all— in spite of the "Old Films " I had running in my head every damn day and night. Only when i dropped the “one lifetime then heaven or hell” nonsense did I finally make sense of the films and [never expected this] but for the most part they stopped- along with the “wierd twitches” arm flailings and other totally unnecessary involentary actions which often came with them. but then more film wouldl be added, new films— “fuk it is always something”! But,as a mortal or a “perimortal” which is my word for Disembodied-prembodied, always learning always in school. nothing is permanent-- even impermanence.

AAWWW Lady!!! now I am speachless, and you brought up my Beloved Abaddon, I will be working on our relationship this year, and i am thinking he will be to me as Beloved Belial has been. its funny also, it is now being genetically tested that the person i have always regarded as my bloodline father- isn’t; and its delivery was meant to hurt— but I had already put that too rest, of all my family who has passed mom whoever- they have come to me withmessages words whatever, but him never— and my siblings hated me because he spoiled and doted on me like he never did to them [neenerz!!!]. but when i my my latest “in my face” first thing in my head was " Doesn’t matter i have Abaddon!" So familiar and matter of fact- so I am thinking i will have some more interesting learning this year. As always I will hiit you up, you have always proven such a Master Bridge Builder and Tracker. kinda sad I can’t cash in your fwiw- i could quit playing the lottery. Thanks Dear Lady!!!

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@Frater_Dark_Matter I PMed you please check your inbox

I have never believed in “Fallen Angels” and Sitchin, for all he contributed, had/s issues. The term F/A was a intended derisive label; and the truth about them is actually very uplifting and positive. The would be "Writers of the old Testiment and its psedipigraphical and deutero and hagiro texts, though they have some good data, are purposefully massively twisted and falsified propaganda; so they cary very little credence with me.

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Devil’s advocate here, but if a person was actually part demon, or at least comfortable with the idea, then nothing @Anziel_Merkaba could say to them could shake their position or shame them. Faith works in a similar way.

There is a fine line to be walked in the occult community because of the nature of what we deal with. While I agree with you that I would not advocate jumping to conclusions without at hearing someone out, you can tell pretty quickly if someone is trolling, insane or LARPing. At that point it ceases to be an act of shaming to tell a sick man they are sick, to call a troll a troll, or a liar a liar.

Having an open mind is all well and good until you let in too many tiny bits of garbage and it clogs up the entire works.

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Short answer? Possibly. I’m not convinced that all of us are walking around with human spiritual essences, but I also don’t think all these people are necessarily aware.

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you put in so much, and I like it alot. although for me, my mortal suit, has very little value when compared to the “Animator” put inside it. you put things in a very respectful way. and enjoyable to read. I look foreward to the future, and all of the other futures.

Yes. Just yes. LaVey’s rituals are considered “psychodrama” and they still work. Even the members who were pretty much atheistic reported results.

I could say the same thing about having too much of a closed mind. What do you accomplish by shaming someone by calling them “sick” or “crazy” or “insane?”

You are not a therapist. You have no right to diagnose people over the internet. Well, technically you have, but that would only be your opinion which holds no weight or significance.

Besides, most mundanes, or even atheists, would call you insane, sick, deranged, delusional, and mental for practicing magick. Are they right? Or is your act of calling someone sick the only one that’s valid?

Get out of your shell, stop clinging onto your beliefs as they were your safety blankets, and go on and explore, man.

I think I know why I have triggered you.

Let’s zoom in…

Yeah, now I get it.

Before you write me a probably long and angry rant, just know that I may not bother debating you at all from this point on. Debates with Ceremonial Magicians don’t really go anywhere, in most cases.

So you may as well delete what you were going to say regarding psychodrama & ritualism. I most likely will not reply to it.

But I am willing to listen what you have to say about calling others “insane.”

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Way to say the exact thing I just said. I just said that psychodrama is what magicians do, and LARPing is pretending for entertainment. It is obvious this is a gut shot response so here it is so you can read it again and let it sink in:

Agreed. The best approach is generally found somewhere in the middle.

Absolutely nothing but the engenderment of ill will. There is no need to name call or shame with intention. To give an example: sometimes here at BALG we get suicidal people with some pretty fucked ideas that pop up. We do not call them names and try to be hurtful. We gently direct them towards resources to get help, while at the same time not indulging further metaphysical discussion. Tact and compassion are key in such situations. I am not advocating a verbal frontal assault with the mentally ill.

How would you know?

As psychology is probably the least objective of all sciences, and as rights do not actually exist anywhere but in your mind, I would argue that I have just as much right as anyone else.

Have you heard some of the opinions in psychology that hold weight these days? Eating too much can get you a disability check here in America on the word of educated psychologists and therapists. Let that sink in for a second.

That is purely subjective and depends on the person. Atheistic magick is a thing, and you can be 100% certain there are magicians within the ranks of the mental health community. Also consider that a person can be completely nuts and still do magick.

As I am the one who defines my reality, in a way I would have to say yes. That is not to say one should not consider other’s views, but at the end of the day the opinion that weighs the most in a person’s decision making process is their own.

I do, perhaps too much sometimes, which is why I feel perfectly comfortable sorting the wheat from the chaff.

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There is a difference between encouraging someone to get help, and calling them “crazy” and nothing more.

I am all for encouraging people to get help. I’ve seen cases here that did indeed need it. But I do not condone shaming people. That is why I engaged you the way I did.

I should have said materialistic atheists who don’t believe in anything are are lowkey genetic determinists.

Then prepare to face consequences of your own actions, as they will be a part of your reality. Because, your reality is not the only one.

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