Who Vepar?? What fantasy are you living in my friend?
How long have you been practicing? Cause now I’m really starting to question your experience with magick and your thinking capacity . And incase you didn’t know his powers check below
It’s true, it really is the real vepar I confirmed it many times. Whatever the case, they seem to show a kinder side to me Idk why. And I mean it, I really have no interest in material things.
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Alright ,I hear you
I can tell that your not experienced much , I also can tell that you’re young . So just be careful when working with demons . Try out the 84 genies or water & fire spirits for starters
Cause demons are messy/tricky business , till date even most practitioners who’ve been practicing for years still don’t understand how to work with demons . Some don’t even know that the moment you make an offering to demons the Protection barrier between you and the demon is no longer existent . Not even a triangle or circle can protect you after you’ve made an offering
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I will definitely be careful thanks for the advice. By the way, what do you think is good things to ask demons for?
Just stay away from demons,.
Most practitioners won’t tell you this because even they themselves don’t know this . But the entire keys of Solomon is a snare.
There are a lot of snares & traps in the occult set by evil authors . Authors who would write these demon grimoires were very evil hearted . And a majority of them had sworn to keep their work a secret. However people still found out about the grimoires. So the mages & witches composed hundreds of fake grimoires to deceive the lay man. Thats why many ancient grimoires back fire on people or simply just don’t work. Even if it’s the correct copy , witches would slightly misspell the demons names or words of power so it’s not as effective .
Demon Grimoires that actually worked were either burnt or placed in the Vatican Secret Archives. Now they are owned by lodges , Secret societies like the free masons, Jews and Generational billionaire families , including powerful Royal families like the house of Windsor, House of Al Saud etc . Other potent grimoires available to the masses are in Germany, they were all gathered around the world by “N@zi SS Chief Heinrich Himmler , Hitlers best friend .
The 72 Goetia is a non potent fake grimoire which was created for peasants & dusty witches. The true work of Solomon is probably hidden somewhere in a Jewish synagogue library alongside the Torah and other magical Texts Written by Moses & Solomon
The actual 72 demons go by different names now . A majority of them became gods. Which is why most cults worship them now instead of evoking them. Even if you do call their demon form , it won’t help you with anything because it’s a destructive force . Some of these powerful demons from Solomon’s time are hidden in churches & major religions like Islam & Roman Catholism and now even the Christian church .
Prove it
I also want to mention how spirits literally run away when I ask for material things. I think they really are not fond of asking for material things and they prefer self-improvement requests.
Kind of an odd diatribe for a forum like this one.
The Truth has always been a difficult pill to swallow . And honestly I’m not even going to advise anyone any more. If you’re also a beginner who wants to start off magick using demons , knock yourself out , go ahead and evoke the most powerful demons , using the wrong system & wrong method .
You see I’m not against demonology, if you are gonna do it DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. Because I assure you that the demons you evoke will arrive PISSED and ANGRY. And they won’t even help you or give you what you’ve requested . Most of them will just fvk up your affairs and your life
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Yes that’s the Truth, most spirits detest being asked for materialistic things or money . Even God & gods detest being asked for such. But there are ways to get what you desire . And believe it or not they want you to attain what you desire.
If you’re really conjuring demons for self improvement , then you’re on the wrong path .You can do that with the use of Mantra’s & motivational videos.
You’ll get X100 better results using mantras than using the common Ars goetia system .
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how many years have you been practicing?
Charlatan gives me good magic because what anybody say to me is true if I think it is good for me.
It is the level of each people who say if magic do it or not.
1.Asmodeus. I think pain for evolve is an idea I would never have found by myself so I love this true idea.
2.Leviathan. I am the Big One Monster of the sea. But each creature who live with me see me as a friend or a family member. It is poetry and I love it. It is me, a good picture of me. Leviathan call me since I opened the book Belial. He is just mentioned at the end of Satan. I think, I haven’t finished with him and also Asmodeus.
Benoît
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Concerning the leviathan, Do you bind/coerce him or do you contact him without any ministering entities and bindings ?
Please do not preach on this forum. We’re black magickians, we’re well ware of what various religions - which we usually are NOT part of - think of what is is that we do. While they are entitled to their opinions, we just may not agree with them. If they are not our religions, there’s no reason for us to care what their opinions are. If you could provide your own personal experience why you think this is correct we’re much more interested.
Please re-read the rules: this is not a working thread but you seem kinda dogmatic and you need to be aware that any posts preaching on a working thread may be removed and if you keep doing it your account will be closed.
Indeed. I would not agree there there’s such a thing as “Truth™” with a capital T in the occult. It is not an objective disciple that can be consistently measured, is why. Every practitioner is using his unique energy system, hence results can vary.
If they didn’t they’d sell spells on Amazon and have 5 star reviews, that’s not a thing for a reason. 
There is what works, and what doesn’t. You may speak to your personal experience, but if you are only spouting hearsay and dogma, then you have no idea if it’s actually true - for YOU - as you haven’t tried it, and that is what we’re really going to listen to. Anything else is speculation.
As this whole post is basically you preaching and being very rude to members for no reason, accusing them of “living in fantasy”, of not being experienced, telling them absolute nonsense that of you being the only one who knows the “Truth”, to “stay away from demons”, to do it the “right way” - according to you, and generally being extremely dogmatic, I’m closing this now.
This is not what this forum is for. We are not here to be your soapbox, there is no discussion here there’s only you being preachy, and that’s quite enough of that.
Post closed, you will take your closed minded, rather rude and judgmental attitude and dogma elsewhere.
if you can continue to post your PERSONAL experience that’s quite alright. Do not preach religions, do not tell other people what to think, state your OPINION, if its actually the truth it can stand on it’s own merits