Hi there long time no see I guess to some of you.I recieved a PM today asking me about my experiences about the Qliphoth and also how to start working with the them. Below is pretty much how the convo turned out. The questions that were asked were things like:
- What’s your experience with the Qliphoth and the sphere of the night?
To which my answer was:
No I don’t have any solid experience as of yet with the tunnels of set as of yet. But I do have some experiences with the first two spheres so far, as I have gone from sphere to sphere at this point, but I likely will have to walk or rather navigate the tunnels when crossing over from the sphere of Lillith to the sphere of Samael. However I do know based on heresay that it can take a while to move from one sphere to the next as the tunnel are very long usually packed with denizens of each sphere both the one you are traveling to as well as the one you are leaving behind. The journeying process through the tunnel is likely packed with lot of tests built in them and it can be confusing and hard to navigate them. Intuitively I get this so far, for I do have one experience traveling through a tunnel, if you have the sigil for the sphere then you should naturally end up in one of the tunnels as you are meditating on it one way or another it’s bound to happen that way or at some point.
- You do have a journal about the Qliphoth don’t you?
I do have a journal about my journey through the spheres of the Qliphoth here it is:
I also have a journal in regards to some workings with Belial in one of my journal just search for my Belial Journal or my username and you should find it. It showcases a few things but not everything in terms of what it’s like working with Belial just putting it out there.
Enjoy and hope it helps.
- How would you begin to work with them? And I’ll start using a magickal miirror in due time after a long time not using one [I though they asked, will it be of use?]
In regards to start working with them (the QliphothI, there are a few ways. I’ll gladly refer you to a few book that I use for this pathworking and those are: Qliphothic mediations by Asenath Mason or Enoch Petrucelli’s book - The Black Witch a Grimoire of the Demonic Tounge. The books complement eachother in a way. This is my opinions of the book (Qliphothic meditations) so far: In Asenath books she gives detailed information on how to work with the energies of the sphere and also get into contact with the entities that haunts them. She also goes through what the relam represents and such but not so much at times info on some of the terms like: lunar magick, what the hell was that I thought. It turns it means: working with the phases of the moon for one, as well as receptiveness of your spritual senses and intuition.
Enoch’s book moves beyond the relam of Thaumiel and has both evocations and poesession rites for each of the Qliphoth and provides simple methods to access the relams without telling as much what you will experience and also how to navigate the tunnels which Asenath’s books so far of the three most resent doesn’t tell you. So pros and cons to each. OR you can take the hard path and work through either: the book of Sitra Achra - not for the faint hearted and is like cipher (code) which you have to break in order to get access to the book so to speak or Mark Alan Smith’s work which does provide powerful workings with the Qliphoth but is very formal and cermonial and based around working with Hecate, Lucifer and Belial as the main patrons of the his current. It’s not streamlined and it can be difficult for beginners to get the point of what he’s trying to convey as most of the info is hidden between the lines, despite him saying more or less that is not the case in the beginning of the book.
You can take a sightly more unorthodox path meaning call on Lillith or Lucifer using their Enn in evocation, or you invoke them first by using the template provided the temple of ascending flame. It’s wise to start working either the patron or matron of the Qliphoth as they are present on every level in some way of each sphere. Then you read up on the sphere and one of them to guide your way without lookin up too much about what you’ll experience in there, and crossreference the gnosis you’ve received with either a book, or a person you know is working with the sphere’s or the Qliphoth.
Some of the offerings: I’ve found Lillith likes are - blood (animal or human doesn’t matter), wine, sexual fluids (semen or menstrual blood), red roses and wine (usually red), you can also make an offering in terms of offering jewels but that’s a bit much. But she mostly appreciates your time and taking part of your ecstacy as you release your inhibitions towards a lot of things. She’s kind but very stern and patient but you should if you she asks you to do something she’ll hold you to it and won’t let up until she gets what you’ve agreed upon. Show her respect and revernce but don’t be weak about it.
Lucifer is similar yet not - it depends what lense I’ve used worked with him, meaning he usually appears a male, either of middle origin or looks like a european entity but something is usually off, it’s either his eyes are pure white or golden, sometimes they are reptilian and sometimes very deomonic with a triangular shaped head.
Note: Belial and Lucifer according to me can be like Smith says a bit hard to tell apart as their energetic signature can at times very similar.
Lucifer baed on my experience prefers offerings like these: white whine, opium-or frankincense or dragonsblood and sexual fluids (same as Lillith).
He (Lucifer) like Lillith like to expose you to your inhibitions and stops that you have and watch you break them. Lucifer is pretty intense that he reveals everything at once, Lillith beging with breaking hurdle one by one but also makes sure you face the biggest one’s first which causes a chain reaction which unwides other blockages which she’ll then force you to face, so with Lillith the process more wild and unpredictable, with Lucifer it’s like opening the floodgates. Also depending which sphere you are entering or working with it’s a different set of blockages that will be unwinded, worked upon and then released.
I should say this to you working with the spheres is a good way to acclimate to the energy of the specific entity that haints that sphere, as their energies shines through in the energy of relam when invoking it. And also by invoking the energy of sphere you are attuning yourself to the energetic current thator those specific entity’s and thereby it will be easier evoking them later, as they will manifest in your life more quickly than if you hadn’t done that before hand. If you want to start working with the entities right away there’s no particualr order other than what you feel you need. I can’t tell you what you’ll face that depends on you just so you know.
* Do you astralproject for your works?
I have at times but not right now as I am mostly focused on working on my astral body a bit more, to become a more potent astral vampire, meaning mostly chakra work and also building a more solid relationship with Lucifer and Hecate before continuing the work in Gamaliel as you need have strong developed senses and mind before going in there. I hate to say it but I agree with some of the authors out there on these entities, they are really not for everyone it can be a grueling experience as they expose every one of your weaknesses and flaws and traumas one way or another so it can be really tough and you need be ready and expect anything. Sometimes it’s needed but according dream work one of the best ways to work with these entities, I’ll say and yes and no, for some yes but you can also induce a sleep like state while awake to work with entities it’s than how to learn to Lucid dream.
Also I am still going through Gamaliel at this point and it’s pretty tough for me as I have a lot of issues that I didn’t know about in this relam. I am currently trying to learn vampyrism and also soon to invoke an aspect of Lillith to Evoke her later. I have evoked and invoked Namaah, same with Belial and Samael before this journey and I have evoked other demonic enenties but not so many rulers of the Qliphoth as of yet but I will soon enough. Also entities in general really likes an offering of time, meaning you devote a time of a day to them, like an hour or fourt minutes even less to them, this show them that you are serious prospective student.
- Can divination help finding out which Nightside deity suits best for a beginning?
Who would you chose?
I’d choose Nammah she’s perfect for this. Nuff said, I recommend you look her up and you’ll see why. And yes Diviniation can help with twhat you want to know but Namaah teaches that as well, divination that is she’s really good at that.
One final note: you know that you can astral project through a mirror as long as you are able to visualize the sigil on the surface of the mirror, right?
I am not some guru I don’t have all the answers I can only relay based on what I’ve learned so far. And why I don’t post a lot on here anymore is because of this:
I am alot busier than I used to be both in terms of magickal undertakings and also mundane things like being a student, exams and such. It’s also to avoid developing an addictive behaviour to becoming addicted to social media and wasting my time on here and not focusing on honing my craft. And also the other regulars and members do an excellent job of helping newbies and everyone, so my input is rarely needed or ahave already been included in one of the asnwers for a post. Newmbies usually don’t sign up when I am online, hence why don’t see me post that often.
@Lukjanof and other who feel this resonates with them hopefully it will be of use.
All the best
