The “over-serious” LARP attitude. I can smell it as I type these words. Its a foul stagnant disgusting.
It completely distracts from ascension. Its just ego traps.
Lately my path has led me to try and do the most amount of magick possible with the smallest amount of effort and unnecessary baggage.
A lot if Black Magick rituals I see get hung up on being “evil” “unclean” and “dark”. I can understand darkness, and mayyyybe evil, but when I see terms like “unclean”, you are by default holding yourself up against something that is clean and pure.
Do you really want to be a “corrupted” being? Corrupt in compared to what? The perfect ideal?
So much of what I see is just a reactionary cry against Christianity.
If your whole spiritual philosophy stands simply to “oppose” something else, you will miss out on higher levels while you are here and when you have moved on.
Seek to create something completely new and true to your true self.
Do you really think you incarnated here to have your whole existence stand against a dying faith?
Why spend your days kicking a dead horse?
So why this particular attitude in Black Magick? You see ego stuff in White Magick and in other New Age community, but its not nearly as cringey and hilarious as some of the stuff I see in our community.
I get it but gods forbid that people just be people, man. Like, them being edgy doesn’t hurt you or ruin your reality so why care? Because its cringe? No one is hurting you. You’re fine. I’m a chaos witch so maybe I just see it differently, idk.
I do indeed see it but I don’t get particularly bothered from it as
Magick is magick not matter what type of style of it you practice even if it sounds cringe or as such it doesn’t matter as long as it works Maybe some people have had bad experiences
And don’t want others to suffer through the same???
I think this atitude specially in black magick is because the term itself attract people that are not so emotionally mature to know that it’s not a question of me against everyone, but rather a question of me against a person that I particularly don’t like. Some people just think that society, religion, “god” (Yahweh), or whatever they come up is fighting against them and to win this imaginary fight they have to be the opposite of everything “their enemies” believes (even if the beliefs are actually good to human life).
There’s a place for the psychodrama magickally speaking. Sometimes it’s just being edgy because it’s fun, but I’d be the first one to say, do whatever it takes to get your mind in the right space to love energy. Under the principles of chaos magick, as the practitioner is the magickal one, it doesn’t much matter what you do it’s the way that you do it.
One issue is, you can have posts that look like RP but are honest to goodness account of personal experience given in good faith. Once you get into serious intermediate practice, you will start having experience that if you told anyone they WILL think you’re mad.
Somehow when these are published in books it’s fine, but on forums there’s a “yeah sure” attitude, which is probably the human tendency to respect “authority” showing. I actually apply the same pinch of salt to most books as well and abandon some that get too much for my taste.
E.A. himself talks about psychodrama on his livestreams and he loves it.
It’s not my thing either, I’m very practical myself and as an introvert don’t enjoy a highly emotional approach, but I’m not going to judge others for how they want to be. It’s their way, and that’s not so much my business
If they’re actually only LARPing and it’s all their heads, then then they won’t be around for long as that doesn’t get results, either in post engagement or in real life. This makes them blame magick for not working, and they stop doing it.
Also, this is not a role playing forum, so it’s kinda boring for those wanting to get into a storyline, or the forum membership just ignores them as being too much, or they get flagged for getting angry and insulting people who quite reasonably challenge their ideas, and too much of that and they’re gone.
Note: moralising on a thread is against the rules but challenging a concept is fine.
Moralising is when the OP says “how do I do x” and people respond “don’t do x because that’s naughty” or whatever. Challenging the premise as one that might not work right for the intended goal is awesome and one way we can help each other do better magick.
As a rule of thumb, if you read a post for it’s factual content and not it’s tone, that helps a lot, and then it’s easier respond to the practicalities not the emotion. Or you know, just click out of it and ignore it. If some people particularly bother you, there are Mute and Ignore features you can set in your profile to hide content from given members. They won’t know you’ve done it and it cleans up your interface.
After that, I refer you to the official moderation position for posts that may or may not be LARPing, set by former mods:
I think you are on to something here. Some people are just dramatic and overly out there and expressive. If you are that kind of person I can see it being to much ya know.
Yeah, I fail to see the appeal of being “unclean” for magickal workings. I mean, in my opinion magick is way more effective if you maintain proper hygiene (before your workings especially), black magick included.
That’s great, but I would say you need to let people follow thier own path,
Just because in your opinion you think they should do something differently, doesn’t make you right.
It’s not caring to project your way of being into others and want them to conform to your way.
There is no one true way. Challenge them by all means but at some point you have to accept what they are for themselves, and realize it’s not actually your business to change them.
Like you said, for some people it’s useful and even necessary.
Nothing you have just written negates whats in my post. The post should meet people where they are at at but mainly serve as an exploration of the topic and potentially teach me something I don’t know.
I honestly think it just comes with the territory. LHP people and many pagans deal with many qliphothic entities. The Qliphoth is naturally vamipiric, manipulative, and destabilizing. That energy is inherently unsuited for the harmonious community environment.
And many people are unbalanced in some fashion anyway. So these frustrations and drives for personal gain make those communities dysfunctional.
