Why Belial would refuse to help me

Here’s one thread with some ideas you could go on.
I’d try these out and show Belial you want to see this through. I think he’d help if you do this.
Let us know!

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Can you hear spirits yet? I’m going through my own crap right now, but without being able to hear spirits, it’s hard to gauge their willingness to assist.


I recommend pen and paper for this problem.

When you call them ask them to use the paper to answer your questions then relax yourself and hold onto the pen, they will use you to write.


I would like to say that I think too many of us put all our eggs in one basket, especially when we have some major need and depend solely on a spirit to manifest the need.
First, there’s a reason that in Golden Dawn the Portal (evocation) Grade is last, after the the Neophyte and Elemental Grades. Learning to communicate effectively with spirits is a challenge, and if you have made a pact in the blind without having heard the spirit agree to the terms, you can be left high and dry.
Second, spirits can actually fail at a task. They can accomplish great feats, but there are things they can’t (or won’t) do.
Finally, this is why self-development is so important. I know you’re not here for a lecture, but I want to help you. Learn to cast your own spells, harness the natural energies of the cosmos, create chaos sigils, mix herbs and oils, charge candles, etc. When you combine all that knowledge into a super ritual or short series of rituals, to include a petition and/or offering to a spirit, you have put enough force out there to manifest almost anything. And it doesn’t take long to learn these things. You’ll just have to put it into practice.


I apologize if this is a little off topic… i’m a newbie to the dark lords.
A good practitioner is offering a 3rd eye activation/cleansing with Azazel and Shamsiel. I thought about purchasing because i could do with the help in order to hear and see my own spirit family better.
But i’m also nervous as i’ve never done anything like this before and i don’t know the fallen angels Nor Demons well.

A few nights ago a had a dream that an entity came and spoke to me about the activation, i’m fairly sure it was Azazel. we had a conversation and what i got from it was he was trying to reassure me and tell me he was willing to work to me.
I never invoked him… don’t even know how to lol

Any insights or advice would be greatly appreciated!

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I also suggest you look here and work on a different magick system if you’re having troubles: http://www.luckymojo.com/courtcase.html

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I saw. Thank you, and welcome!

I was trying to find someone to help with a court hearing myself. I thought of belial, and just looked up eligos after you mentioned him. SO hes a good one to have on your side huh?

Eligos is great at law. He is like a demon lawyer, amounst other things

ok sweet thx

Is it unusual for Azazel to visit you in a dream when you don’t evoke or call him?

Not really. Daemons seem to like throwing things at you to get your attention if they feel it needs to be directed at them.
Just remember it’s always your choice to call on said Spirit, don’t let any make you think otherwise.

Thanks Alita, So just to clarify…you choose them? They don’t choose you?

I don’t know what else I could do in the physicl world besides gathering all the evidence that I could against him which I did. What else could I do?I wish I had superpowers but I don’t. If I did I would not call up on entities for help. Belial did not pass me any knowledge so far about anything. He just granted me wishes in return for something that he wanted. But that didn’t work last 2times. I feel like he was bought out by the enemy. After all enemy employed a voodo priestess who knows what better thing he got in return…

I was thinking about that actually. I was thinking Paimon too. I will try both I guess

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Eligos is good

i am of the opinion that Belial, is not one who will grant just anything because someone wants it. i could never have a better mentor than him. he, along with others- assisted in nuking the ‘enemy family’ trying for custody-- even weekends sometimes… of our grand children … [and the whole story there is to me amazing]; dreams in court. i feel to counsel, that, just because we want something and can justify it in 1000 ways- he sees further, and so I would not think it a slight. LOOK WITHIN, what is any reason he would hold this back ?
He is in my experiance seriously Justice oriented , and I also believe your cause and desires are not over; and so patience, as goddamn annoying as it is – may well be part of the ongoing formula for a better outcome in the future.
i had things going so amazing with him- my son wanted me and mom to move down to tennessee to be near him and his family after he returned from his 4th combat tour of Afghanistan {101st Airborne Infantry Squad leader }
we tried to find a way to do it, but simply did not have the funds or a place to land, andtry as we might, i finally told my wife to drop it for about a year - and told Belial who i was in a Pact Working with- make sure that my wife does not have any luck so we could take a year in fixing our credit and gathering funds and finding a place-- guess who closed on a house for a price way about anything i was comfy with and celebrating the 4th of July with my son and his family 2 WEEKS later ?? Could you believe I was pissed beyond reason ???
But Belials fingerprints were smudges all over the event!!! All I can say is that even with the bumps and bangs we have had here— Thanks to Him, my financial status has never been better . The kinda sucky thing is my son was only around for 6 months then he was sent to korea and then kuwait/iraq- then him and his family who had been only a mile away was sent to Texas-- so , did we loose? not at all. i find it quite excellent that He would negate what i wannted because I knew better and literally picked me up and put me where he saw I was needed— where where the experiances I NEEDED were to be brought forth.
I do feel a huge sence of sorrow for your situation— it is not totally unexperianced by me… but I would advise, make the best use of your time to develope whatever “the courts and society” seems to think you were lacking, and create for yourself “Currents” which when the time is Right [and we seldom are the best judges of that-IMO] will flow the results you wish to achieve.
What I have said sux, I know, it is usually the only thing I can say it seems- sorry about that.
Also, you may be entering a place where Belial is setting you up to learn and perfom other magicks not yet brought to your mind. perhaps the Blood Sorcery techniques taught by Sorceress Cagliostro-- o r who knows ?
Wish I had something more useful for you.

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It can be either way but what I mean is even if a Daemon does call you doesn’t mean you have to work with them if you’re uncomfortable with something about them.

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