Who is Lucifer to you?

Father, teacher, Illuminator, Initiator, god of Sitra Ahra, Phosphorus, the son of the morning, he is celestial and infernal, of incredible light and incredible darkness.

Honestly, don’t subscribe to the fallen angel myth but I will give it an allegorical spin to say the fall was about the debasing and eventual “demonizing” of old gods by the “new order”.

Too much to write really. I work with on a regular basis.

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Hi @Faith819

The answer is yes, yes and yes. Lucifer is much more difficult to hear then other spirits.
And even through I hear him, one time better then the other. Feel him one time better then the other you can easily block yourself.

  1. Ground yourself

  2. Yes do the meditation. If needed longer. If distraction is a problem use binaural beats or guided meditation on youtube

  3. Try something different. Pendulum, his ENN, Gaze longer in the SIGIL.

  4. Write your questions down with a date and time.

  5. Ask your questions and see what is coming up…

There is more on My Journal on Magick

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Lucifer is a Roman God of the Morning Star, Son of the Titaness, Aurora, Goddess of the Dawn, and Father of Ceyx, the King of Trachis.

Contrary to popular belief, Lucifer has nothing to do with Satan. Isaiah 14:12 poetically refers to the King of Babylon as the morning star and derides his fate, “how you have fallen”. In the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible, morning star was translated as lucifer (pronounced loo-chee-fur]. It was connected with the Dragon in the Revelation of John, which fell from heaven, and the rest is history. But mideval Europe also thought that Belial, Leviathan, and Beelzebub were also other names for Satan, but none of us make the same connection. We should stop connecting Lucifer with Satan.

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Lucifer is much more, Enki, Prometheus, God of the Sun, Venus, Aspects of Saturn, Archangel…
The King of Babylon thing is just another interpretation. Whole YouTube is full of it. A new false teaching

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Thank you, i did tried use a lot way in a lot different thread at this forum about how to mediation but not one I can success, and I did listen to a lot YouTube video for meditation that for heal chakras and open third eyes or some relax music, but seems doesn’t work yet, and I did write down the questions on my book that always put in front of me when I try meditate, I think I need use different way, but I doesn’t have many toolset, I just have his sigil and I know his ENN, I will try when I do it tonight, thank you for reply me :heart:

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I’ve read that Lucifuge Rofocale is the saturnian aspect of Lucifer

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You don’t need a complex toolset. What you can do, I don’t know your budget is buy a white candle. Even a theelight (the budget thing :wink: ). If you call him and he is there you see the candle light going more up and down, even swinging when you ask your questions. It will reassure you that he is there and change your mindset.

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Balancing chakra’s is different than grounding, try to look that up too. I just posted something on my journal on grounding.

Oh and I love this channel. Even balancing your chakra’s with Kundalini is explained in a safe way:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lights+of+venus+kundalini

Look at the clair vids too.

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Darker aspect, Saturn aspect. Yes :slight_smile:

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I have tea light candle, and incense (Sandalwood, Frankincense, Dragon’s Blood), but I mostly light the Frankincense or Sandalwood now for him.Thank you for tell me all this :heart:

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Thank you, just save to watch later :heart:

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I see him as formerly Enki the god of creativity. But now he just appears as Lucifer and he is indeed fearsome and his powerful presence is overwhelming. He appears to me as dark and intimidating, opposite to my impression before I saw him.
I used to see him as a father/elder brother/ mentor figure but I’m too scared of offending him now to label him as something so familiar. He’s the absolute boss of my demon spouse, I am nothing before him.
I know my place and humble myself if he’s around.

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Thanks

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Patience, you will not be disappointed.
Sometimes you need it, then you’ll know what’s going on.

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No, all those associations come with his association with Satan. But he isn’t. He’s a minor Roman God with little power. That everyone continues to get these over-exalted encounters with Lucifer continues to prove to me that evocation is only calling upon aspects of the subconscious. I do believe in real gods and spirits, but I don’t believe anyone is having legitimate contact with them.

Enki is associated with Mercury, not Venus, the Morning Star, making him not a likely candidate to be connected with Lucifer, God of the Morning Star.

Prometheus is already in the Roman Pantheon, you can’t mush together gods like that.

Lucifer isn’t the Roman God of the Sun, that’s Sol.

Yes, this one is right! He is the God of the Morning Star, which is Venus.

No, he’s a God of the Morning Star, that’s about as planetarily pigeonholed as you can.

They don’t have Archangels in Roman mythology, so definite no. And this is because of the false reading of Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28. But these are both poetic descriptions of human kings, not Satan. There is absolutely no connection between Lucifer and Satan, and Satan never fell from heaven. For that matter, there’s no connection between Satan and the Serpent in the Garden of Eden.

It’s the proper interpretation.

Isaiah 14:3-4, “3 And it will be in the day when the Lord gives you rest from your pain and turmoil and harsh service in which you have been enslaved, 4 that you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon, and say,” who is the King of Babylon? A human man.

@lawclerk, you should get in this conversation.

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I worked for 2 years now with Lucifer and as I said he has many names and masks.
So my experience is practical and of course a bit from my former believe.

Only I don’t believe the dogmatic Satan teaching… Which by the way doesn’t mean they couldn’t be the same being for some people (that’s not my view, but I respect that).

For the rest. We don’t agree.

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I think people on this forum who really worked with him and have their live changed by him disagree.

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I never called on Lucifer nor Enki. The boss of the demons appeared in my dream and actually I didn’t even call him Lucifer (I think it is a pretty “new” name). I stupidly called him “papa” and got whipped. But it’s convenient to refer to him as Lucifer imo.

I don’t think association with planets are too important. Enki is also an aspect that I feel is much more cheerful compared to the Lucifer I encountered. But well, I still think their energies connect.

Just like, for Belial, I don’t think that’s his proper name but I use it anyway. I actually associate him with sth I have no evidence for, and he doesn’t disapprove. I learned an old name of his but I can’t share it. Each name is a different persona, maybe a phase. They’ve existed for a long time and had multiple phases.

I also saw in a vision that they’re all connected. But we still have separate entities. I’ve learned not to find that contradicting. I think what matters is the aspect and role that are manifesting to our immediate perception.

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For me, he is the Creator of the Human race (although I do not know to what extent the evidence and sources have a varying degree of influence on people). He is a father just like his masks in mythologies.
And I think I need to follow him, not because I do not consider myself a god, but because I respect him as a father and as someone who does not abandon his children.
And I love it so much that he is stern Father / Teacher.
But he always watches, unless I do something really stupid.
I feel I am and I need to be loyal to him.
A bit like in a family, the son feels loyal to his father.
He is my Emperor.
He shows me that sometimes I have to deal with problems with which I can handle myself. And even though we have not yet talked with each through two-way communication, after I deal with my problem I can not wait to work with him.

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He is not weak, he is the Emperor of infernal empire, you numbnuts.
Borgy is right.

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