Thank you for clearing that up. I will edit the title so others will know you are not talking about the Dreadwood group.
Eh. Idk I’m always asking why we limit ourselves to mostly the goetic beings here, when there are beings closer to our plane willing to teach and aid us, and those that are more ancient and powerful as well…
I don’t spend much or anytime really on conspiracy theories. I’d much rather dive in head first and see what I can find out for myself.
As far as ufos go… my only comment is it’s 2020. My iPhone 11 Pro Max takes pictures, that I will proudly say rival National Geographic. (Photography is one of my things.) Yet even the most recent ufo sightings And photos appear to the be same quality as they did when I was child.
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I believe in UFO’s/ETs from personal experience but believe they’re more so interdimensional beings or something.
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The information about them is easy to find, their powers are about things that people here care about, they are easy to work with, there is a variety of them. If people only care about zombifying their romantic/sexual interests and don’t want to study much, they are a very good alternative. I find Enochian angels easier to summon and work with, but everytime I show the tablets to people they praise me for being able to work with those things
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Well. Does that make them like vampires in thst you can’t take a picture of them? I see people post pictures on here all the time, and the forum proclaims yep that’s a spirit!!
What would the difference be?
The entire photograph with ufos is usually very poor quality, something you would expect to see from the 80’s or 90’s, and not just the supposed ufo.
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Im not sure, my experience wasn’t with a camera/etc so I wouldn’t know. All I know, is I had a personal experience with “UFOs/etc” which has influenced my personal beliefs.
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Eh well. I’ve been guilty of saying the angels seem to be the hardest to feel imop. Demons/djinn/ other beings have always seemed more likely to let me know they were around than angels. Granted more time, more open senses etc, has led me back to working them- but as a beginner it felt like wasted time, to even bother trying with angels.
Hehe guess I answered part of my own question. But when we are stuck in rut, staying with the same old same old, thst isn’t work for many doesn’t seem all thst wise and rather limiting.
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Aliens exist. That is pretty much a statistical certainty. However, I am seriously doubtful about whether they visit this planet and manipulate humans the way the conspiracy nuts proclaim because in the grand scheme of the cosmos, this planet is insignificant.
The only way I can realistically see aliens visiting earth is as projections, similar to the way we ourselves can visit the moon or Mars through soul travel.
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I agree with you but this made me remember something
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Well, there are people working with Lucifer and Lilith here, and sometimes people working with angels that are well known in Christian culture, those are regularly the alternatives to the Goetia posting (I love the Goetia btw, but I usually work with demons from it that are not so known here)
Yes you are right. I just rarely find an uncommon name mentioned. It seems there are very popular spirits/ gods /demons that run in trends along the forum, but it doesn’t seem many step outside of this, or if they do, they aren’t mentioning it.
For occultists who accept many things, it doesn’t seem like we step outside of our comfy little boxes very often.
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Conspiracy theory: “an attempt to explain an event or practice by reference to the machinations of powerful people, who have also managed to conceal their role.”
Not too crazy when looked at that way, maybe.
I agree with that.
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I’ve always been curious about them due to an abduction like experience I had. I was fully awake during the first part, so the first part wasn’t sleep paralysis.
This (ETs, UFO’s) have always made me super curious.
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Do you really think humans with their un evolved semintelligent intellect and primitive brains, the midpoint species not even half way on it’s way to being an intelligent creature is the only thing in the universe which has had a glimpse of the principalities? There are creatures that understand the universal aspects and forces far more clearly and thoroughly than humans do.
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In response to @Keteriya, last year there was a massive data dump from the US government with more than 7000 videos of UFOs being tailed by military jets and such, and they finally admitted this is happening.
But also, I have suspicions that it could be falsified or mainly us using the vehicles. Why, I dont know, but if you guys are interested there are some declassified documents referring to bodies and materials being recovered from crashes.
Oh, but definitely check out the CIA gateway document; about 30 pages on how reality is a consciousness hologram as well as the reality of projecting the mind to other realms.
Remote viewing fascinates me too.
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You’re underestimating the kind, my friend.
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The elite are in the occult. No coincidence that a member of the Royal Family is also the Grandmaster of the Masonic Lodge
Aside from that let us not forget that wikileaks dumped all of Hillary Clinton’s emails and one of her staff emailed her to say they were going in their backyard to do a chicken sacrifice to Moloch.
In the UK the elite being practicing the CRAFT via lodges since like the 1700s supposedly and in present day it is fueling corruption the magic is just the glue to the brotherhood that opens doors and maintains a lot of corruption which is how the control the world. Which is why scotland and the UK had mandated in the past that powerful government officials declare their membership.
In short the elite serves any and every power, spirit, god etc. that can continue making them elite.
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We’re getting inevitably political now folks, sorry, can anyone who wants to keep talking about this please make a group PM? Cheers. 
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