I’ve been pondering on this ever since i read about it , the theories about the serpentine spirit in the garden of Eden are all out of sequential order, these fall in the timing of the daughters of God and the fall of Samael and his followers. but the serpent was before that time (within the 1st generation) Adam and eve were the only existing beings among the things that were untouched by sin or evil…even before Lilith’s fall (it had existed) so what tempted Lilith to fall if all was made equal and good. it took eve eating sinful seeds from a tree to fall, and a spirit before its time. but with Lilith she knew only good and equality …what was there to tempt her? if it were herself, which makes no sense bc if that were the case eve would have questioned dominance too bc she was made from man as Lilith was formed beside man in his image. they both were made equally but one from flesh other from spirit of the man. in all eve was the second coming for Adam to multiply, she came when Lilith became a demon so understandable, she found a form of temptation or influence, but lilth’s temptation is the one I’m pressed about, the creatures were all birds and beasts of the land but no mention of snakes and or any sin lurking until eve’s time. has Lilith gave you guys any further confirmation about her fall specifically.
I think you really need to read up on some actual Judaic mythology. Lilith has never been “fallen.”
The story of Lilith being Adam’s first wife is a relatively late one in her mythology, and is actually derived from a satirical stage play. In her earliest story, Lilith actually worked as a temptress, with God’s permission.
Lilith was never tempted; she sinned by disobeying God’s injunction to lie under Adam.
right not fallen like fallen angels , no.
Thats not what. I meant
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It’sa corruption by the church of metaphor s far as I can tell.
The serpent or dragon are metaphors that represents wisdom. Before the serpents humans were just animals.
So wisdom, is the the ability to think for yourself and apply knowledge in an intelligent and forethinking manner. This brings the qualities judgement and proactivity rather than reactivity.
A controlling slavemaster doesn’t want that in his slave population. He’s going to see that and bad and get rid of it. I don’t think man “fell”, e escaped… sort of. The church tries to bring us back under control a different way.
Robert Sephyr has a theory on his yt channel that the serpent represents orgasmic energy, as he’s comparing that symbology with kundalini. I see the relationship here as valid, as raising kundalini beings cosmic knowledge and a mechanism by which man gains the reality of a metaphorical fruit.
Most of the abrahamic and judaic texts I’ve experienced use either Samael or Lilith so I’ve adopted Lilith in my own personal gnosis and consistently use apples as offerings for communion with her.
