this has been a recent thought on my mind. When it comes to Baneful magick I always like to ask myself, when should one really go as far as death. There are an infinite amount of ways to attack someone with Baneful magick without killing them.
When you’re that angry at someone and momentarily you want them to die. But you think at the same time that’s not right for their offense ( it all depends on what you think is right I understand that I’m just describing me lol ) what’s that mean do you really not want them to die? I think that’s strange, is this a matter of ego? You want them gone you want them to die. But do you really want to kill them for whatever it is they did to you? Does that deserve death? I have been there before with those thoughts arguing back and forth about a target “they must die” “eh. They really didn’t hurt me THAT bad. I will just fuck them up some other way or banish them from my life some other way” “I don’t want to continue living knowing they are still as well” and with that what do you really do with your target? Because ultimately in that scenario if I ended up therefor doing something else other then death I was not happy or satisfied so it ended up not working.
I have had plenty of Baneful rituals work. ( only 2 death curses others were things like job loss ect) But then comes times where I’m uncertain like this. So I either don’t do the workings at all or what I attempt doesn’t work.
Is this just a matter of meditating to see what you really want? Or divination to see what would work best? What’s your intakes?
It’s okay whenever you can do it and laugh it off and never feel bad about it for as long as you live… If you don’t think you can do that, you might harm yourself if you go through with it.
Ah ok so this is something to consider then and to maybe meditate on and think about before I may consider any Baneful ritual: if I know I am not going to feel this way then don’t bother with the ritual it’s a waste of time.
I been asking myself before a ritual
“How will I really feel doing this?”
I have felt that way though and have had successes in not 1 but 2 death curses in my time. I’m actually certain about 1 of them I know they’re long dead. I still don’t know about the other one though and it’s been years so I just thought forget it. I’m just proud 1 in my lifetime worked lol as bad as that sounds.
I look at it as I’m carrying a gun in a way, I have the power to drop people with the right power and techniques but I take death seriously and only will go that way if I think it’s extreme enough so idk if I could ever get that high with deaths lol
It’s weird it’s like I know there’s obviously no legal trouble for destroying someone with magick but it just feels weird to me like “only in worst case scenarios…”
Like I wouldn’t be able to say I used a gun on 500 people:skull: which is kind of obvious I’d be underneath a maximum security prison somewhere in the mountains
That’s why I can happily say I only have 1 death under my hands with magick.
Yeah doesn’t make much sense really, and they should be teaching people magickal defense skills in school - although there doesn’t seem to be a universal consensus on what is effective for that.
For example I probably wouldn’t have ended up so crazy and berserk if I knew some basic magickal defense and wasn’t taught my whole life that magick wasn’t real.
I never ever thought of this. I don’t see that ever happening personally. I always however did use to think of a hypothetical life where what if magick has become so popular to the mundane world everyone realizes how dangerous it can be and that everyone realizes it’s real. the world makes it illegal and law enforcement agencies start hiring psychics to track down and charge practitioners with the same crimes as homocide ect for cursing or something. Would be a crazy world I would be in prison. I think we all would be by now lol
Imagine you curse someone and 3 months later the FBI knocks on your door. “You can either work with us or goto prison for the rest of your life for homocide”
I think there were plenty of ancient civilizations where magick skills were common place for common folk - for example ancient Egypt. Who knows - were there magick police? What were the laws like? How would that even work? So you could know the basics of defense - or at least have a set defender - like your tribal shaman who is supposed to be on your side at least - and how people used to do things.
Now its just set up for those ‘in the know’ to swing away on the “Goyim” or “Inferiors” at will.
Then when you get rocked, they tell you you are crazy and dose you up on meds that damage your body and zombify you.
This rings a bell. I think there were laws against cursing and poisoning, so if a mage was accused of killing with magick they could be sentenced to death. Maybe ot depended on the target though, trying to get a hit on a noble was probably a bad idea.
Don’t quoye me though I can’t remember where I heard that. Maybe Estoterica on yt it’s his area.
There was a witch on facebook that openly with zero remorse said that she had casted a death curse on a guy for “playing with her”. This is a sociopathic trait and these are the people who are to dangerous to be kept alive. To me it’s not only justified to death curse them but a holy duty…
What was it that the hypocrite Demon Yahew said? Oh yeah, Thou shall not k1ll. I mean it was ok for Him to commit mass mvrder, right? Think Angel of Death sent to k1ll pagans only. Yep, victims of Yahew…victims whose sin was but polytheism and daring to practice magic.
It’s on us, I reckon Lucifer would say ‘f#ck Yahew and all that He commanded,…dismantle it all… start anew and think for thyself’;…Is that a scary place to be. Which place? The place before Moses and his stone commandments. The place before they told the story about Eve being curious about the apple tree.
To answer the title question: this seems to be subjective and the answer depends on the magician.
I personally think it’s okay when it’s in self-defense or in the defense of another person, or if the judicial system failed to properly punish someone who is obviously guilty of hurting an innocent person (and I do mean “obvious”; like there’s a mountain of credible evidence that this person did what they did).
I think it depends upon your personal moral and ethical code. These are questions you have to answer for yourself.
Is it ever ok to deal out death? If so, what makes it ok to do so? Does the method matter at all? Is it worse to use a gun or Magick?
Some people view the universe as essentially cyclical and death being so natural that death hardly matters in the scheme of things. I imagine for them that dealing out death wouldn’t constitute much thought or remorse.
Morals,ethics, codes of honor etc. are all made up constructs. So introspection is necessary to find what you align to.
Honestly, it’s ok when you decide it’s ok. You should keep in mind that feeling guilt or doubts is likely to increase backlash though, so it’s ideal to only do it when you’re confident in your goal of doing it.
It would be wise to exercise at least some restraint and not just be trigger happy cursing people for minor things, but even that’s for you to decide, as long as you’re fully willing to do the work and comfortable with the possible outcome then it doesn’t matter.
