Or more specifically, have you ever invoked a deity long-term, as in, for more than a day? What happened, good and/or bad? Alternatively, have you ever had such a close bond to a deity that you were able to invoke them at will and/or whenever that deity wanted to possess you?
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Same as anybody that you talk to more often: you get to know them better in less time and develop your relationship.
Whether that’s god or bad is between you and your personal dynamic. Personalities don’t shears work out long term, but sometimes you get used to each other and work through differences.
I have Belial permanently INvoked. He is with me and integrated as part of personality, which is the purpose of invocation.
I don’t consider this possession. I am still very much in the driving seat here. Possession is when the entity takes control, and is a whole other level of activity. Invocation can be viewed as the bottom rung of that ladder, so to speak, but you’re usually not invoking the full personality, as much as energetic aspects that interest you.
I would not allow any entity to possess me willy nilly, that’s not useful or helpful in my book, and highly disrespectful to me as a sovereign being. This is my being, my experience, they can get their own.
I have vessels for entities to allow them to stay in my spaces long term. I find if they are evojed and just not asked to leave, if you don’t keep talking to them they just fade off on true own after a while. Then you have to evoke again to get them back.
Imagine inviting someone to your house, then ignoring them: they just go on their way don’t they? It’s not that different.
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Would you allow it with Belial though? Or, alternatively, would you allow it to constantly happen both for your and Belial’s benefit as long as you had full control of when it happened?
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No, same reasons. I don’t believe it’s right for me to give up control if I can help it. That’s not what I’m here to do.
… the second question, but no this is a bad idea ime. Always do invocation on invite and mutual agreement. It’s important magickally to never give up your agency. Not just for you but at a planetary level as that’s where we’re going in the age of Aquarius imo.
I’ve experienced this level with my own higher self, and it’s disabling and very unhelpful for trying to live human life with. Ihad a mental issue pop up caused by a parasite once, my higher self needed to come in to sort of, do some rewiring. I felt very detached. There was no reason for me to do anything as this was not my life. I didn’t remember who I was and was more interested in looking at the house and talking to the body’s owners presence who was an avatar of me. I (daemon) gave back movement control to me (apr snd rider) so I could navigate the body to appointments, where I was met with fear and anxiety. I must have looked psychotic, because I was.
This experience and others leads me to a model of incarnation where we are immortal spirits fully possessing a mortal homo sapiens animal.
That person was an emergency and not so much involuntary, but uninvited and not expected. that can’t happen randomly and constantly, you would ruined, causeing your life to fall aoart.
I think the reason for this is poor piloting such is a matter of specific experience. We have been immersion training on these ape biosuits all our lives and we’re the fully integeated spirit - no other entity has either the training or the experience with your animal to control it like you can, so they’re just not good enough to pass as human - enough to not freak out other humans and mess up everything. Being human isn’t its job and it has no idea how to do it.
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How can you only assume the aspects that you are interested in integrating?
As explained above, you assume it through conscious intention.
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That ^
So for example, say a person at work has a really strong personality and rail roads people into doing what they want. You want to stand up to them but in a calm, professional and non-defensive way. You could call on Belial’s strength of personality and independence (with a touch of stubborness maybe) specifically to build up those personality traits in you.
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Very clear, but in the practice during the invocation you say " Almighty Belial I want to assume your aspects X and Z from you" ???..something like that?
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No, you would say something like, “Belial, Breaker of Chains, He Who Is Without a Master, give me your strength and confidence so I may do what must be done.”
If you have ever read comics, you’ve probably seen examples of invocation, such as Wonder Woman’s famous, “Hera, give me strength!” or Thor’s “By Mighty Odin, I will not fall!”
Invocations are not “wants.” The point is to become like unto the force you are invoking so you do not want to be wishy-washy about it. You wouldn’t say, “Thor, I want to assume your aspect of courage,” You would instead summon it forth, “Thor, Son of Odin and mighty God of Thunder, give me your courage!”
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Perfect, I get the point, thanks.
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what do you mean with the above message that you have vessel for them to stay long in your space
An object with them incurred to jnhabit it. An idol.
Try the search at top right with the keywords “tutorials vessels and talismans”
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