I don’t know how to explain this, but is a feeling and I think I’m quite right.
I’ve been on and off doing magick on someone, basically to improve or to face complications in our relationship for the last few months. I was able to totally repair our relationship, until about a week ago he shunned me and emotionally blocked me. We have contact because we work together, that’s all, but he makes sure we just communicate via public messages.
He is a super religious Muslim, and so frowns upon magick. I’m quite sure he doesn’t do magick itself, but his prayers are a kind of magick. He has a lot of faith, specially about protecting himself and cleaning with ruqya.
I am less able to influence him now, in fact my magick is not having effect at all lately. But what is worse, I don’t feel I connect that easy anymore. Don’t have a big will to do any working on him, and can’t connect properly during evokations.
I feel his prayers (a form of magick?) are affecting me. Before he used to pray for my good, now his attitude tells me he’s praying more for me to leave him alone, and looks like they are making effect.
Does anybody know how to deflect this? He’s not really doing magick against me, so not sure banishing would help. I want to do rituals for my magick to be stronger against him but seems like I can’t.
What kind of deity? Would it be a kind of evokation to one, and petitioning? Sorry for the total lack of knowledge on this aspect…
I don’t know if it’s madness, but I was trying to have a conversation with Belial before, and between other things I felt (can’t hear spirits properly) something like Al Qursi. Now I’m not Muslim, know some things and heard about that prayer, but don’t know why that popped in my mind. A part of what it says is this:
“Allah! There is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Him, the Ever-Living, All-Sustaining. Neither drowsiness nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who could possibly intercede with Him without His permission?”
Would evoking Allah (no regular prayer like they do) and petitioning him be very crazy, as my target may be protected by him (the eggregore, the pre-Islamic Allah… don’t want to get there). I’m a bit lost
Not really. I have worked with some demons (Viné, Dantalion, Leraje, shortly Belial now), Angels of Omnipotence and not much more so far.
As my senses are not that open yet, I don’t know if the Allah idea is just programming of the Muslim society I live in lately (although that kind of things have never affected me at all, not even as a kid), his prayers for me making effect, or a real good idea. But I guess you’re right, is not like I lose anything.
Mmm interesting, I’ll check about her.
Not at all. Just looking for a way to bind him, while somehow he’s binding me.
This is interesting, I thought about it too. Maybe the only thing that stops me from leaving it as it is, is that that way I let him win. And after everything he has put me through… is not really fair that he gets everything he wanted and I walk out empty handed and beaten.
Mmmm true. Will this at the end be a battle of wills, then?
I agree to what Arachnos said. If you really wanna do something and there’s direct interference, go for a surprise attack sort of thing. When he’s convinced you’ve left him alone and stops praying about you.
So that’s what makes me think “so I’ll defeat you, son of a b”
I was not but I guess seeing him getting his way messes up with my head. I’m having inclination to relax and let it go, and then I tell myself “will you let him win?”
Can you still think? If so then your ability to use ‘magick’ is not blocked. Lower forms of magick are easier to block but the magick of the mind supersedes all. If you can think then you can cut yourself off from external influence and analyze it and form patterns that unmake it.
Detach your awareness from your body into purely the realm of thought and work to where time is a meaningless concept. You might be aware of its passing but in this state it has no meaning to you beyond an arbitrary sensation. Look at yourself from the outside in and the inside out rapidly in succession until you are doing both at once and any influence you don’t want simply remove its attachment from your awareness and work your way down until you have removed all levels of attachment and capture it in your awareness. Study it and observe it until you find how with a thought you can remove its existence. With that pattern of thought you can cut through any mental and energetic defences your target create by simply erasing it.
This bears more resemblance to so called RHP practices of letting go of everything. You do this to let go of all attachment to be free of influence to build yourself the ego of suitable patterns for the desire you wish to accomplish. It is operating in the form of pure intellect and consciousness.
That’s actually a great idea Mike, thanks! It crossed my mind the other day, and the only reason why I was not sure about it is because Muslims pray actively against Djinn, so I thought it would be one of the spirits we would have more defenses against. Is one of the reasons why I use Angels, as Muslim do not consider them evil and so his defenses would probably be low. Not sure what you think about this!
Ohhhh. In my case, I think if Allah barely listen to the hundred of thousand of people who are Muslims and pray with faith to him, not sure why he would be listening to me on this matter, when I have a nice pork sausage in the fridge
Most people don’t know how to pray properly, so it ends up being weak. But with magick, that changes. My prayers to the Norse gods have been as powerful as any other magick I’ve ever done.
Simply call out to him as if you’re actually calling out to him. Sounds simple, but many simply pray as a meaningless mantra, without any will or desire. Really call out to him with the will that he hears you.
If you have Master Works of Chaos Magick, you can borrow some elements of the Conjuration in there. I specifically like the emotional transmutation aspect. Give your request with emotion. Speak the words like you mean it, and feel as if your request has already been granted to you.
