What is the most powerful category of magick

[UmbraSui]

What is the most powerful type of Magick I ask this because “to know how low the floor is you first need to where the roof is”

Powerful means breaking established laws of the universe with Magick using the elements bringing people back to life the impact in what science knows must be substantial to be considered powerful

[DarkestKnight]

There is no such thing. It is the magician, not the type of magick, that matters.

You have asked similar questions before and will get similar answers.

[UmbraSui]

Ok than who’s the most capable magician and what is he or she capable of I’m just searching the peak of the iceberg to understand the limits of Magick to know what I can expect from learning Magick

[Mulberry]

@UmbraSui

most capable magician

I would say those who have developed siddhis - “accomplishments” - are the pinnacle of what the human can achieve. These people have attained mastery.

I don’t know of any named Siddhas (people with Siddhis) and they tend to stay obscure on purpose. I you want all those it’s said to take many lifetimes of work.

Siddhis: Definition, Types, Tips and Dangers • Yoga Basics

For western occultism … different authors have different specialties and all magick is possible given a path to manifestation. You have natural mediums like Edgar Cayce, you have masters like Gurdjieff, but I would not put any of them as “best”.

Here’s my opinion on who is the best/stringest

Which spirit works the fastest to break someone up?

The thing is, the old question of “which is strongest/fastest/best” doesn’t have a one size fits all answer. As every situation and its energy (motivations and emotions) are different, so will different entities do better in different circumstances. Search for “strongest spirit” to see for yourself, that one get this same answer over and over again. You need to break down what you want and how, then do the research - read through grimoires like Corwin Hargrove’s Goetia Pathworking with modern descriptions of entities abilities, that more to the point, many here including myself have found work - then make your choice of one or more that fit the energy and work from there. Tip: It’s worth reading the new threads every day. Many you can skim over, but you never know when something very relevant will come up, and it can become another source for synchronicity to bring you the info you need.

And another that is more useful in terms of the “best deity”, meaning what entity give sthe best results, but again it comes down to you:

Who's the strongest there is out there?

Any entity you truly believe is TRUE “one and only, truest, highest” god automatically becomes more powerful in your world, in that period of time, than anything else that can affect you, this is referenced in the PGM & Hindu prayer where the mage/devotee, who may otherwise be a polytheist, praises one entity as the Highest - then magickally, you can merge with them as well, to act with(in) their current of power. This was the great con trick of the monotheistic faiths, to both steal that alignment of the person’s inner Creatior and hang onto it - meanwhile, magicians struggle with it because achieving that level of immersive devotion is hard, especially for people who don’t have close loving relationships with entities. I have been researching why Catholicism has saints on the order of magnitude it does, the fact they have this model of human AS miracle worker, working in such close alignment with god whilst embodied (as well as after death) seems to be their key. This bears so little resemblance to the “you may not use graven images” parasitism that lies at the core of the Abrahamic sects it is in many ways a different beast entirely, a worship and embodying of Source in aspects AS love, mercy, etc, and VIA human intervention. I mean that’s my finding anyway, and no offence intended to our Catholic members.

There’s no-one I would put over another. And I don’t think comparing ourselves to others, in this day and age especially where our whole society is corrupted by heavily parasitic psychopaths dragging everybody down spiritually, is a good yardstick.

If you are looking for goal setting, then I can give you mine. In an ideal world, I want to raise my kundalini and understand how that relates to the microcosmic orbit, I want to develop complete health and fully healed and intact DNA and be able to maintain that, I want to become fully adept with clairsentience, lucid dreaming and remote viewing and I want my life to automagickally fall into place and attract the right stuff at the right time without me having to magickally tweak it.

I don’t think whether other people have all that is my ceiling. I will try for any and all of it. I probably won’t get it unless I could study and meditate 18 hours a day for the next couple of decades, which I can’t, but any progress towards those keeps me going.