Is it just that one was a human that died and the other was not incarnated.
We often call the entities we work with as “spirits”.
Do spirits die the way a ghost does after death? Does a person have a spirit too? Like i imagine something remains if a ghost dies but the person incarnates again.
It’s going to depend on your worldview and how you believe humans are constructed. Your view might nit be my view and this is not one of those things where anybody knows the “Truth(th)”. You have to find your own way.
A couple of us including me outlines out cosmologies here.
So in MY view - which is influenced by taoism, a spirit is the core, immortal spark of “divine” (or whatever you want to call that), the essence of consciousness that is pre-incarnation.
But there are many many layers in incarnation (for want of a better word - I realise most of these are not “carnal” by definition) - and the physical is only the last in a long line. Every lyer, or body, can interact with certain parts of the universe.
This is why it’s possible to have conscious beings that can interact energetically but not physically - they have incarnated into energy bodies or “sheathes” but not into human-qi or physical bodies.
Thus a ghost is a spirit who has incarnated all the way down into a physical body and has recently left it, and returned to the very next available energy body state, which is having a human0qi body. A human ghost isn’t really dead yet, in taoism. To be a human, the spirit has taken it’s higher sheathes and put them into both a qi and a human body - it must leave both to stop being human.
This, imo, is why there’s no such thing as a “human spirit”. Because being human is a thing a spirit does, it’s an experience, it’s not what it is. But a “soul” is any combination of spirit plus one or more bodies/sheathes/layers of incarnated being, thus you can “be a human soul” by virtue of being in the middle of a human experience at the time.
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So a spirit is our core, what makes us, “us” before any incarnation or human identity. A ghost is whats left over when we die and doesnt last unless it sustains itself somehow. If the ghost dies, then just the spirit or other spiritual bodies is left? Aka the second death?
I think truth is a bit of everything; and each worldview is just one window into the truth.
Kinda like how every culture has their own view of their idea of god or the creator. Its all our attempt to understand the truth, and i think theres a small bit of truth in everything.
Yes. I call them “models”, and operate on what I call “working models”, and after that the Mathematician George Box said of models:
“All models are wrong, but some are useful.”
No, the ghost is the whole being minus the last layer of the physical body - like taking off outwear doesn’t make you a “left over” of who you were when you had on a jacket - your physical body is what’s discarded, not you.
Okay, but the spirit doesnt die during the second death? My apologies for any misunderstanding on my part.
No, the 2nd death is just the shedding of the qi body. The spirit is the immortal spark of the tao that cannot die. Death is basically nothing more than a transition between states of being.
That makes sense.
Lol, yesterday I was thinking about the spell I red before about preventing ghosts from entering the house ;because some ghosts unrelated to you may enter the house contain potent energies of spells you done , prevent harmful badass entities to enter the house include some ghosts through the ashes of a hieroglyphic charcter mixed with the ashes of another Hebrew character in a substance that is poured over the entrances, doors and windows of the house.