This question emereged to me while reading about Shiva(that which is not) the realm of nothingness from which everything comes and goes etc
So when the magacians say there astral traveling, or going out of body, or go this there, manifesting from that world to this world , are they talk about shiva or astral world
Is astral world or spirit world etc different from nothingness ?
Are there entity and worlds in nothingness?