Called Lucifuge Rofocale. I did not perceive Lucifuge directly. Bael appeared in the east as a white horse; an elderly bearded presence appeared southeast; a third presence associated with Marbas was sensed in the west. I interpreted the three as appearing to relay to Lucifuge anyone who has more knowledge can help me figure this out before this i also had a spirit like a shadowy female figure give me the names to invoke
Do you feel confident that the uninvited and the unknown one are who they claimed to be?
This sounds like a trap. Invoking is a form of mild possession, so I don’t know if I would want to invoke any entity inside my system that I had not previously evoked to build some kind of relationship and get a feel for how we get along first.
The one entity you wanted to call didn’t show up, and a bunch of others you didn’t invite did - that’s a red flag for parasites, but at least they didn’t just pretend to be Lucifuge.
How are your shields and wards and did you banish before you started?
I did not but these entities did not seem parasitic or harmful They were discussing between eachofher I just observed
Could explain more how these guys can be parasites the 3 entities are similar to the 3 who respond to lucifuge as subordinates
Not enough info to say. There are signs and symptoms if these are going to out themselves as parasites - see the parasites collection thread.
Note: I personally have seen and experienced way too much upset and harm from parasites to take these kids of risks, and trust things I didn’t call.
Azazel at least introduced me to a different entity to work with - given Lucifige didn’t show up to introduce these, I wouldn’t trust them, and there’s no assurance that they have anything to do with him. I work with Lucifuge and not once has he ever palmed me off to someone else.
You said you have no protections, so all this is ringing alarm bells for me. I think your first priority is to banish and cleanse very carefully, set up proper wards and shields, and then call Lucifuge in a clean space and ask him if he sent them.
Ill definitely clean up but as more descriptive I can be one form was a white pale horse other was an elderly man 3rd couldn’t see physically none had actually acknowledged me they were just talking to each other it was weird
Maybe you became aware of them because of the trace state of the ritual and they were there all along…? Not sure but in any case they are cluttering your ritual space and you need them gone and out of your way.
Yep it was trance for sure