Hello, I feel as though I’m not allowed to elaborate on this because of the forum rules, but I need to weaken an egregore, whether through draining its energy, poisoning it (in a way, what I mean is putting energy in it that will drive people away from it), or anything else.
I browsed topics on here that say that the only way to weaken an egregore is to not acknowledge its existence. But what then do I do about the millions of people who DO acknowledge it daily, and whom it is causing anguish? Is there really no way to weaken it?
There are 2 massive egregores I feel the need to weaken, because they are both causing hysteria and destruction of well-being, both in my family and friends, and in the world as a whole. One is more important for me to weaken than the other.
Your family and friends are on your own path. You must let them do what they will.
You, however, can protect yourself against an egregore, I would do so with sigils crafted for the purpose and a crystal grid programming a weakening of its influence to turn it back when it hits the boundaries of your program.
If you have your own property, I would bury at the four corners of it, a programmed crystal, and then at the highest central point you can access, suspend a programmed crystal to create a basic crystal matrix over your home, willing them to weaken the influence of the egregores in question in your kingdom. I would then create a sigil for the purpose of turning back its influence in your home, and place it over the doors into your home.
If you’re in an apartment, then do this at the corners and entrance / plus exit windows or balcony.
Other people’s paths are their own, but you can weaken an influence of an egregore on yourself, certainly.
You could also work with your house spirit to have it sweep out influence of the egregore in your home.
Now, as for influencing people’s minds, there are several goetic spirits known for doing that. You might try working with King Paimon for influencing your family members and friends, and creating the fame to have a global influence in yourself. Influencing your friends and family and becoming famous enough to be an influencer to people who follow you may allow you to create your own counteracting egregore, or turn people away from the ones that you dislike.
You can kill them like any parasitic bein that is not sovereign - it has no spirit or self-determination, it is a creature created by humans and maintained by humans. Because it has so much support it will have a lot of energy keeping it going nd can heal well, but you can attack it like a parasite, weaken it, and that energy will have an effect and play out on it’s own.
I have my own servitor called Amos who attacks the egregores of organizations you’re welcome to try if you like. He works like a sentient suit of armor that you wear and go to war against the parasite with, which you do by visit the HQ of the organization (and other other offices you feel like) and burning it out of the people there with a flamethrower so they lose their loyalty and will to work for it.
AMOS
Designed to be invoked, like putting on space marine armor, and you become the instrument for your own wrath. There’s a shit-ton of righteous energy in the collective unconscious to lean on from in this lore. The target is essentially marked as an agent of chaos and heretical to your own existence, and full destruction is the only correct option.
Names:
Terminator Amos, Battle-Brother, Space Marine, Amos Astarte, Angel of Death.
Punisher of the unjust, of those who crush the needy and oppress the poor.
Add names as he wins your battles in recognition of the deed.
What it does:
Provides defense and weaponry for range and melee astral combat with a) a visualized egregore representing a company and b) storming buildings and destroying every being inside them.
Food/Energy Sources:
The galactic Current Sheet of the Milky way galaxy.
Wears: Ancient Terminator Armor
Abilities:
Takes attributes from both Ultramarine and Dark Angel Chapters
Extremely bloodthirsty and lives to destroy enemies astral presence and connection to physical reality: all of them, violently and without mercy
Can work well with any other entities, from angelic to chaotic
Immune to corruption and self-cauterizes any disloyalty or doubt
Very intelligent: Can adapt and use the enemies own weapons, strategies and tactics against them
Carries “demon swords”, guns, traps, whatever you need, that seem unstoppable (and may or may not scream incoherently when you win. Because lol.)
Allies with and magnifies any ill will already sent towards the target.
Sources new weapons appropriate for the battle on his own
Normal Mode: Vanguard Space Marine, a covert-operation specialist, plenty for one-5 office buildings or the main egregore.
Power boost: can replicate to a company of as many marines as you need, with Amos (that’s you, invoking him) as the Captain. Good for multiple locations with Sergeants leading a squad to one or more locations
You can use the Watcher Barachiel to kill the egregore. But if it’s something that have a lot of people that believe in it, it will die but another will appear (more weak, but a new one always appear unless you cut to the root)
Okay, ive gone through this a few times and there are a few things im unclear in.
In respect of the above, would I open sigil, call him into presence and then imagine him forming around me in the form of the armour?
Is it necessary to have a familiarity with the lore from which this is drawn to lean on the unconscious energy associated to it?
Would this be visualisng symbolism commonly associated with the target organisation such as a logo? or it would it be a subjective representation visualised by the operator?
I havent heard of these before, would I have to become strongly familiar with these concepts and attributes to properly employ these aspects of the servitor?
Also wondering, whats the best wake to task him once brought to presence? ie, written instructions, verbal instructions, visualisation (this perhaps implied earlier), pictures of target buildings etc?
Also wondering how results youve got with him played out in physical terms over time. Always keen to get a flavour for how things work
That would work, and I’ve done it that way and it’s why there’s a sigil… BUUUT, for me I actually find it quicker to call him and work with this shamanistically.
So while I am traveling, - I usually go to the physical location of the organizations HQ or main offices, which you can so if you’ve seen them by thinking about them, or you can use online maps - and then manifest Amos around me.
There’s actually an animation of a warrior fighting a demon that I borrowed the process from.
(Fair warning, this animation is from the Warhammer 40k gaming community - it’s extremely violent, I am using it’s vibes to enhance my process very happily, but it’s not for everyone. I saw this after I created Amos and it just fit and came naturally the next time I invoked him.
Paused at the timestamp where he manifests the armor in what’s basically an astral state to destroy a Tzeench demon that had been attacking him and his band.
No, none at all. it’s just a point of inspiration. The mecha from animes like Evangelion also work, but you don’t need to use these as mind fuel.
See the armor as unpenetrable, melted so well to you that it becomes en extension of your body and equipped with any combat weapon you choose.
Kill things. It’s a self-righteous killing machine.
This is not academic in any way, it’s about the body, fighting and doing. You don’t instruct it, you don it and do what you need to do with it, exactly as you do with your human shell.
Here’s a bit in the lounge but it gets a bit personal and sometimes political, and we have a rule about not naming groups of people that we might attach magically, sorry.
Many thanks. Im not skilled with shamany things or astral travel. However, I have been to their HQ many times in the past (indeed I used to work there) so figure that might help.
Does the process need to be repeated frequently over long periods usually? ie, should i do it daily for a few months etc?
The more you do that the bigger the effect. I find that this works well to give advantage to existing enemies, so you may not need to do a lot if there are already other forces at work. But to see it fold I’d plan on an intensive working performed over time to accumulate and complete the destruction in the astral, and help manifest it into the physical.
Okay, so if ive got this right. Call him in using the sigil (as I dont really get how to take the shamany approach), imagine myself in their hq, imagine him/armour forming around me. Imagine me laying waste with it. Repeat frequently
Yes. I would add to write down what happened in a journal. It helps solidify it into the physical, as well as redoing thongs that worked, and might not be recalled fully after some time has passed.
One you have done it once, you can do that without the ritual and sigil, it’s the same thing really.
So after doing it once, go straight into the imaginings and writing?
Interesting. I wonder if it would be useful for me to at some point do one of my abstract mentally intensive visual art pieces, depicting him going to town in their building…
Yes. After a little while in vision, you start getting impressions you didn’t expect - that is when you know you have site contact. They can get odd at this point as it’s now your subconscious giving you symbolism of how it us trying to describe what is happening.
Generally, you just go with it, don’t judge anything at this point, try to keep your conscious mind from assuming anything, and tell it it can do that during the journalling phase afterwards.
Yes that will also help. Look into “hypersigils” as it’s a related idea. Drawing comics can manifest reality.
Many thanks. Visualising I do well. But I’ve never really got the shamanic type visioning thing. I tried many times with the shamanic visioning tutorial (I think it might have been you that posted it?) posted three or four years ago, but never got anywhere with it.
I made my first attempt today. Spent some time with the sigil gazing and name vibrating and asking him to come into presence. Imagined him forming as the armour around me and asked him to join me in the target building. Imagined myself in the target building with the armour letting loose (I’ll just say that a flamethrower and a few other things were involved). Worked through floor by floor.
I didn’t get any particular energetic sense as I usually do when working with spirits/servitors/any external beings etc. So I dont know if I made connection or if the approach im taking is effective.
In terms of the art approach, well aware of hypersigils. Im a keen writer so have been thinking of doing this by way of writing.
When I create a working by way of an art piece, I usually do it in MS paint. I dont do it often as it usually takes me a good 20-30 hrs, sometimes more. A lot goes into it energetically too so it is quite draining. I dont have a design or plan and create intuitively as I go, so often they end up containing elements I wouldnt have expected.
Heres a recent example (it contains a huge amount of very fine detail that you cant really make out in the photo. It consists of thousands and thousands of very tiny manually drawn triangles, like stained glass)
Very cool. It sounds like you’re on the right track and the shamanic way just needs practice. You already do this, and now the subconscious has another way to talk to you, but it will take it some time to get used to it.
