Tips on demonic curses for revenge

I have been made aware of many vile, despicable people whom have terribly hurt someone who is very close to me. Namely by inappropriate offense that I not wish to name.

I have never performed baneful magick before, but I have great reason to believe now is the time to start.
I would like to know some tips before I go into the process, namely in how to perform and what language (tone and emotion not actual language) to utilize during.

My basic idea is to call upon Andras by reciting his enn while staring at his sigil handrawn by myself as well add a few drops of blood to the sigil. I did this with a Clauneck summoning and the goal was met.
If anyone has any basic tips or special requirements particular to this kind of magick, please let me know or recommend different demons to work with if you see that more ideal as a starter point.

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Before involved with any baneful work, make sure you are grounded first and don’t forget cleansing before and after the work, I learned this the hard way after doing some work with Andras a while back

I’m am not sure what your situation is nor what your desires are, unless Killing is your intention, Andras may probably not be ideal, this entity is no joke dude. Of course, if you feel the call to do so, then go with your intuition

Maybe Saturn? A quick google search should give you the seal of Saturn. Within this work, all necessary from the operator during the work is to visualize their target are suffering while gazing upon the seal - From the book Baneful Magick, E.A goes in further details regarding using Saturn for baneful work

Glasya-Labolas is one to work with to cause sickness, provoke attacks against those whom have wronged you or you deemed is deserving of

Raum is one to work with to bring sufferings to those whom have wronged you by bringing causing loss in their lives and can also cause mistrust so that all your target have encountered with has no trust for them. This may not be as violent but in the long-term can cause serious harm to somone

Focalor is a demon that can cause accident and make one more prone to suffering misfortune. Direct such energies as you see fit

Furcas is a demon you can work with to make those whom have wronged you feel guilty for their acts or cause raise the feelings of guilt from their past actions. This is not a violent approach but it can as equally if not more devastating than violent attack as there are very few things that can hit us as hard as our conscience and regrets for past actions

As you can see, there are plenty of demons who can be used for baneful work. It depends on your desires, what you wilt to be appropriate to deal with the transgression committed

Make sure you are properly protected by grounding yourself through meditation and clearing your mind to stay anchored on your objective and nothing else - also with proper banishing before and after the work. Extra, spiritual/salt bath after the any baneful work is beneficial for cleansing your aura of the bane energy. As a safety measure when working with Andras, burn his seal the moment you complete the work as a way to completely and permanently detach yourself from the bane energies evoked. Then you should be alright

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I will take all of this into account and message you (if you don’t mind) if I have any questions, from the bottom of my heart thank you so much

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Doing an Andras summoning in that manner may work, but isn’t the best idea. He can be a very helpful demon for work like this and a great ally to have, but his energy and presence alone can affect you and your environment negatively if you don’t take precautions.

You would want to first clear your space and banish, then setup shielding and protections to ensure that his energy doesn’t rub off on you, then do your ritual with him (calling him in your preferred way and asking him), give the license to depart and then thoroughly cleanse your energy and space afterwards.

Alternatively, you can just use the pathworking method (from either Carl Spartacus’ or Corwin Hargrove’s respective pathworking books) which would be easier but you’d still want to cleanse before and afterwards just in case.

When you do the actual ritual you want to focus on the feelings of anger, injustice, rage, hatred and similar. You absolutely do not want to focus on any guilt or worry you may have related to the working itself, just focus on your feelings towards the person. Feel it build up in alignment with your ritual and as you finish off your ritual let it all release outward. You can pair this with a visualisation of the outcome you want on your target.

You can do this anywhere but as mentioned if you do it in your house or something you will want to cleanse afterwards. Doing it outside in nature is a good choice because you can automatically ground right after and the trees would clear away any lingering negative energy from the ritual.

The being you choose would depend on the type of outcome you want to inflict upon the target. You could use Naberius to destroy their reputation, Haures to make them unlucky and fail in their endeavours, Glasya-Labolas to cause serious physical illness and mental anguish, and the list goes on endlessly. It really just depends on how you want to affect your target, learning them and knowing what would be most painful is how to do a truly effective revenge curse.

You could of course do a general curse and get good results, but probing more into your target (through remote viewing, divination, and other means and any information you already know about them) and hitting them in what they think are core aspects of themselves is far more effective.

An example is you might have a target who prides themselves on their body, maybe they’re an athlete or gymgoer and it’s a big part of their personality: you could do a general curse to make them unlucky and suffer and whatever else, or you could do a targeted curse to make them get injured, to make them develop body dysmorphia, to make them physically weaker and repulsive, to make them ill in a way that messes up their body, etc. The second way of cursing would last far longer and have a much more brutal effect since it’s self-sustaining, from the moment the curse is completed their own insecurity and ego begins to feed it too. It becomes a constant state for them and their psyche begins to feed into their misfortune much more, it can’t be easily brushed off, and that will perpetuate the cycle more and make it develop more and more over time.

Of course, in general you’d have to decide if the target is worth the effort. Most of the time I’ve ended up not doing curses as the answer wasn’t a hard yes, but in your case it sounds like the answer is yes.

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I did read in Goëtia that if fully evoked, Andras would attempt to kill the summoner if he wasn’t restrained properly but the only other option I saw was Focalor and I’m unsure of how likely a drowning curse would be
Nonetheless all of this taken into account
Thank you

You can go one of 2 ways but the best way is to do it the way you feel is best, even if it isnt one of these 2:
-Mouth your incantation and intonations instead of making noise while doing it. Silence is attached more so to the darker side of things as silence has no sound to it which means no vibration or “nothingness”. Its a symbolic way of calling on darker energies.
-You can be loud and put alot of anger, violence, hatred and animosity into the curse. Alot of elaborate and loud invocations to demons. Etc etc.

Whichever way you go about it is entirely your choice. Do what you feel is best.

You can also evoke a demon and petition them to do it for you.

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Incantation is what I had in mind as that is what I am most practiced with. I am not in the space to begin or entertain evocation yet so Incantation/Invocation is all I have to work with.

Thou spirit N. Because thou hast very dilligently answered my demands and was ready and willing to come at my first call I doe hear licence thee to depart unto thy proper place without doeing any Injury or danger to any man or beast depart I say and be ever reddy to come at my call being duly Exorcised and conjured by ye sacred rites of Magicke. I charge thee to withdraw peacebly and quiet1y, and the peace of God be ever continued between me and the [thee]. Amen.

This is the only license to depart I am aware of, cited from Goetia specifically
Is this the correct one or would you recommend an alternate one

You can use anything that is a license to depart, including making your own one, using the godetia one isn’t really necessary as it’s just a brief “goodbye” and asking them not to cause anything unwanted to occur.

I use a shorter modified version of Carl Spartacus’ one “Thank you for hearing my call and I bid you farewell, leave now at peace without performing any unwarranted actions or causing any unwarranted occurrences and outcomes.”. The answer to me at once part isn’t particularly needed imo, but experiment with what you see best. Just think of it as you’re saying goodbye to a friend as they’re about to leave your house, no need to overthink it.

I also like to add "Thank you for " and then thank them for completing what I asked them for, it creates a sense of finality and completion which helps.

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“Goetic lore purports that Andras may kill the celebrant, but Goetic lore espouses the intimidation, coercion, denigration, and threatening of demons– he most likely will be kind to the black magickian who consensually evokes him. The provision in the traditional lore that he kills “the unwary” seems to solidify my opinion that he works to avoid being coerced and take revenge upon those who attempt to trap and coerce him.”
[Vk Jehannum’s blog post about Andras]

I summoned Andras while performing a curse I did not experience any negative effects, although I did not evoke him in a Salomonic way. (you know the BS of threatening him, trying to dominate him)

Idk, what way you going to work with him, but the method that is presented in Evoking Eternity of Ea Koetting (forum founder) is pretty solid. But then again you are free to use any method you see fit, it’s just I personally do not practice the disrespecting Salomonic way.

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Yeah i know for a fact id rip the jaw off anyone who tried to summon me in that fashion when i depart from here LOL so makes sense.

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Whenever I invoked a demon I would always close it with something along the lines of “I am ever grateful for your presence and time, you are free to leave”

Definitely seems like I’ll need something a little more thought out as a proper departure license

The mind likes to make it sound fancier than it has to be, but you can keep it like that. Making a more formal and royal-sounding departure license or even conjuration can help with manifesting the presence of the spirit cuz it makes it sound more plausible to subconscious. Atleast thats what happens with me

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That also does make a lot of sense, I suppose it is mainly dependent on your viewpoints in life whether something longer or shorter works best for you

I didn’t consider it this way, I use Goetia for research on demons and their purpose, but didn’t dig much deeper than that… on further thought Solomon was a man of the Christian God and not an Occultist or Pagan so it does make much more sense that following his exact method of evocation would form a toxic atmosphere for the demon as well as the summoner

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Its not so much about toxic atmosphere but have you seen the Ars Goetias instructions? You be commanding that demon around like its a child thats been naughty and demanding things from them. Not to mention that you can entrap them in jar pretty much. Its a complete violation lol.

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I think I use atmosphere more vague than intended, however the Solomon evocation is in fact very disrespectful if done without parody nonetheless. I could never bring myself to do something like that, these are great beings (or energies depending on your belief) who deserve our respect and care if we call upon them

Would using demons of magick by damon brand be a bad idea? I ask because so many people have had success but when it comes to belial and Andras no has commented on them

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If I’m reading your comment right, its because there are easier spirits to work with than Andras and Belial as they are immense in power and do not leave nearly as much room for mistake as say, Clauneck or Gremory would if you summoned them (for their respective purposes) for example

Maybe not in this post? If you try the search they are also mentioned a lot over the years. Belial more than Andras probably, but neither of these are generally considered all that great for beginners. Belial doesn’t coddle or do much if he thinks you can do it yourself, and Andras is chaotic and can bring you harm if you don’t protect for it, and ime protecting overmuch stifles him.

(E.g., typically I see more accidents when Andras is around… don’t call Andras to mess up your next door neighbor, you might find his house burns but so does yours if the fire spreads)

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