If one looks at classical depictions of the demiurge; particularly his Orphic manifestation; Phanes, one can see that it combines both solar and Saturnian (serpentine) symbolism; both night and day.
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Could you do one for sathariel please? I want to know anything possible about him (I canāt find anything AT ALL about himā¦ I even read the whole book of enoch even though it isnāt even a reliable source right?) Like what can he do, what is his energy like, maybe his sigil? What does he think about the story from enoch; angels just wanting to sleep with human women? And if itās really true did they love them or just a quick fuck with as many women as possible? (That question is for all watchers, if you know please do tell me 
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I am sorry to ask, normally I would ask them myself but I am kinda occupied with other deities right now 
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Thatās really interesting. Iāll PM ya 
Iām quite curious are female watchers existed or even possible? I donāt see anything about them but only male watchers.
As far as I understand the mythology, it is about how the sexuality of women lured the angels from their appointed duty and led to their āfallā so, for that to work, all the Watchers would have to be male.
So itās all a sausage party up there until they fellā¦
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Pretty much. A bunch of androgynous pretty boys couldnāt keep it in their tunic.
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You still here bud?
I have a question
Shamsiel is said to lead 365 legions of lesser angels in the Zohar and it is said that he was assigned by God to guard the [Garden of Eden]after [Adam and Eve]were expelled; comparable to [cherubim] There is apparently some disagreement in sources as to whether Shamsiel is a fallen angel; he is still regarded as the ruler of the 4th Heaven.
Whatās the truth there?
Shemyaza, where and how do I fit into the field od magic, and the greater purpose to my life and those around me?