The spirited that mimics voices

I’ve heard of those spirits that mimic voices of loved ones to get their prey to let them in.

Anyone know what they are exactly, what they want, and how to defend yourself from them.

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Wendigos are known for this, but I think it’s not unique to them, I think poltergeists do it too :thinking:

For outdoor entities, stay indoors, or away from being alone in the wilderness or deep woods especially at night.

For poltergeists, identify what kind - entity or an angst-ridden teen and either banish it or heal the teen. Either way set up wards and shields to stop it from just coming right back, or from attracting more of the same.

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Well I have the seven spheres by Rufus Oprus, the book says that the sun is the best for defending spirits and demons, I could try that. Ad with alittle bit of mars

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Most are parasites, some are guardian angels. Some are the spirits you’re trying to evoke.

I don’t evoke anything. I don’t work with spirits or demons or dieties. And I never will

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Honestly when I was a kid I loved those cryptid shows like monster quest, finding Bigfoot. But my favorite was Mountain monsters, basically a bunch of backwood country men go and try to hunt and trap cryptid that have become a problem in communities or at least a concern. Problem is they never realize that the kind of traps like they make, though can trap any normal critter, can’t trap these beasts, hence why they lose them. In fact from what I know now, some of these things might have been actually spirits in the physical world, and we know that ain’t gonna work.

There’s one episode where they were hunting what I would call a magician Sasquatch from the stories they have of it. Mind control, disappearing strangely even from Bigfoot encounters and etc. one of the trappers got separated and followed their teammates voice.

Only for the actual teammate to appear right behind him, scaring the crap outta him.

In my head it was luring prey in like how some hunters do with birds, or gators and crocodiles by mimicing the babies. Or it’s just advance illusion/glamor.

Point is, a lot of these different things that can do it.

The real issue is how to protect yourself, we can protect if there just the spirits that go to the physical world.

but wendigos? Spirits that posses and mutate humans?

yeah we better learn martial arts and survival skills

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Wendigos does that exist ? :open_mouth:

I’ll probably find a book about supernatural creatures from folklore :thinking:

You míght also add to the list of pentacles for the one of Saturn that compels spirits of Saturn to obey the magician.

Spirits trying to get the best of the Magician can be trying.
It’s one of the reasons I am on an anti psychotic medication is I was hearing the same thing. My name would constantly. Be called out in both male and female voices.

Oh I’ve heard of the power of Saturn. And I also know it’s the most risky planet to start first but don’t worry I will in time, but seriously I don’t get it. I get all the mystic energy isn’t visible, but spirits can gain physical form and even touch, maybe we can with our own energy, we just need to learn how to do that.

Unless someone knows and can explain to me

If a spirit or demon can leave claw marks on walls, leave burning footsteps, make a room colder maybe even freeze water… can’t we?

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Not as far as we know, however, there is an extremely small percentage of people who can bend a spoon with brain power, levitate, use telekenesis, pyrokonesis,. Etc. The mind, used in it’s full percentage could do amazing things.

I’m no expert, but based on my reading I think there’s 3 main kinds.

  1. There’s the spirits, which can prey on humans, and then
  2. there’s “wendigo psychosis” which is suffered by those starving to death where they turn cannibal (honestly humans do this quickly, even before they actually start to genuinely starve), and
  3. The criminal version that we don’t talk about here, because they do really gross illegal shit to get into what’s basically a cult.

The spirits inspired the naming of the other two, which are human inventions.

I’m not a Native American that could have grown up with the stories but is sworn to secrecy - in those parts there’s a parallel with the Celtic lands where we are admonished as children to never talk about the Fae, because talking about them draws them to you.

This is also said of the Sasquatch types - or races maybe - but not of say, Dogmen that are fully and only physical. It only applies to telepathic beings that have energy bodies not physical ones, aka “spirits”. However, many energy beings can manifest in the physical to some extent.
Or they could be more like apes as we were that diverged in evolution and retained their natural attainment of siddhis where we have that blocked in us and have to work really hard to unlock our siddhis.

Some bigfoot researchers count many types of sasquatch, at least 4 in North America alone, plus worldwide versions, like the yeti, the yowie, the yeren and others - and maybe the wendigo is a type of sasquatch also.

These types all have varying physical attributes when they manifest, just as humans do only moreso, and some are vegetarian and peaceful, but some are omnivores and hunt, including hunting humans.

If nothing else, it’s really good entertainment. Thanks to human’s sheer numbers and industrialization, most of us will never have to worry about actually putting their existence to any kind of test. :slight_smile: (I have mixed feelings about this lol)

Yes, if it’s spirits without a physical body of any kind, we pretty much know what to do and there’s tons of techniques to keep clear of them.

Yes, these are called “siddhis” in yoga but all 8 of the big main religions include stories of people having such abilities. They take a really long time or long work to gain.

I think you would really like the book I just recommended over in the Book thread:

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Okay I might read the book. Also we’re talking about the same kind of wendigo right?

I’m talking about the lore accurate wendigo

The humer is that people catch these things on camera more then Bigfoot, but because culture changed its appearance to a ridiculous level. They and other Cryptid fans call them skinwalkers

Wendigo and skinwalkers are different. In Navajo culture, a skinwalker is said to be a sorcerer or witch who can shapeshift or possess the forms of animals and commit evil acts. A Wendigo, on the other hand, comes from Algonquian folklore and is a malevolent spirit that can forcibly possess a human being, marking that person with an insatiable hunger and a craving for human flesh.

It should also be noted that the word Wendigo is an English loanword, created from two unrelated words in the Algonquian dialect. It was first coined by the English writer Algernon Blackwood.

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Tell that to the people who keep calling them the wrong thing.

Seriously I think wendigos were called skinwalkers cause all the hairless skin and lanky body. A before that they called them the Rake from creepypastas

More like skinny walkers…

They have never been the same thing, ever. Just because some uninformed people on the internet claim they are, doesn’t make it so. In the actual cultural lore, skinwalkers were human, wendigos were spirits.

The Rake is fiction and was created on 4chan as an idea for new monsters. If it has any existence at all, it is as a thoughtform. The word “rake” is actually old timey English slang for a gigolo.

Exactly! But that doesn’t stop know it alls from saying otherwise.

Of course the actual towns and communities that encounter these things no better then those morons.

This just came to mind. I actually stumbled into this interesting information.

Apparently it was said that a sliver bullet was used at times to kill a wendigo.

Why do I get the feeling universal stole that idea?

Creepypastas are an internet thing. They’re new and don’t count as lore for anything. Another reason AI is worthless because it will read fiction like that and regurgitate it as if it’s real.

The “Rake” is not real, it’s a fake creepypasta video. It’s got nothing to do with wendigos,

Skinwalters are the 3rd variety of criminals I spoke of above. Skinwalkers are humans not wendigos but they adopted the name because they want to be feared.

Meh - why do we care if they’re too intellectually lazy to do their research? That’s their business and they’re allowed to think what they want. They’ll never meet one, it’s just entertainment and it doesn’t hurt anybody.

Skin walker is a reference to "walking in the skin of an animal" - they use the pelts (that is, the hide with the fur still on it) the same way the old Norse berserkers (bears), ulfhednar (wolves) and similar (there’s a boar one but I forgot what it’s called) used pelt to help them shapeshift.

Somewhere around here posted one of Arith Hargers youtube videos about the ulfhednar and berserkers that explains the historical sources about them.

By “research” I don’t mean just believe me, and definitely not creepypasta or online casual entertainers - read the original sources, listen to the historians and scholars that describe the old accounts and cite sources. For skinwalkers look up videos of interviews with native Americans - they do talk about it sometimes, and read books, where you can get a wealth of info nobody talks about online.
People go for the easy and the sensational, be prepared to extend you attention span and get into it to find the stuff that might not be that exciting but is genuine.

E.g. The Book of Werewolves (Illustrated): A 19th Century Study of Lycanthropy - by Baring-Gould, Sabine … ok ngl is not the best read, but it gives you the whole story of where the werewolf idea started in Europe and how it was pretty different than today’s movies.

But the human variants don’t do the calling you name thing, so I’m drifting off topic. Humans are typically bad at telepathy, and very often the name calling is in your mind, not out loud, but the out loud ones happen too. It depends what you’re dealing with.

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Oka I like the knowledge…

i mean i knew half of that actually. I own the werewolf book too.

And I hate creepypastas as well.

Anyway back to offense and defense against spirits.

Now would a paper planetary enchanted talisman work?

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Yes, paper will work but metal is better as it is more durable so if the talisman is carried around, it is less likely to tear or get destroyed accidentally.

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