The Royalty Obsession

This shit! Yeah I’m told dumb shit like that too, less so nowadays. I never once believed it, and to be honest, at this point I just want to help others. That’s my greatness

I could just have an overinflated ego. Entirely possible. I don’t know what the fixation with royalty is. For me it’s usually of being of a certain birth, like spiritual genes or whatever.

I swear to God for all the people who claim they’re some demon or whatnot it’s kind of baffling. Even my friends are getting this feeling that they’re some specific entity.

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Right, it’s normal to be told by an entity at first encounter that you have power. That’s a givin. But this individual told me she was The Queen of Faeries. Not that and entity said she had power. I would believe someone who told me an entity approached them. I do not believe ppl who claim they are a god/goddess.

This is my point a lot of ppl are missing. People claiming to be at a god/goddess level.

I remember on one forum I showed myself out of, this one person said that they had the ability to go to different dimensions. That in and of itself is not weird, the weird part was they claimed to be this dimension hopping demigod who could go to any dimension and find the person you’re in love with on another dimension and bind you to them. He was binding things like Sailor moon characters, anime characters, video game characters, fictional characters etc. He literally has been making money scamming off of peoples need to play make believe. He feeds of the echo chamber. We all know anyone capable of hoping from one dimension to the next, than the next, and another and another would not make it public. They also wouldn’t claim they can do it repeatedly until they find a Sailor Moon that agrees to marry a client. I hope that makes sense. Sake oil salesmen are making hand over fist exploiting ppls fantasies and also are making the occult look bad.

On another post on a different forum, one person claimed to have access to a special race of dragons only they were granted access to. When somebody else on the forums said that they accessed it successfully, obviously an argument ensued.

I am not talking about entities coming to you and telling you have power, I am not talking about trickster spirits that say their royals. My main point of this post is why the grandiosity from beginners with no knowledge. And how one can handle such grandiosity diplomatically so they do not go on to a forum and start role playing with people who have slime girls made of ice cream. Yes…I have heard of somebody with a servator slime girl made of ice cream…this forum I no longer frequent was taken over by incel types who had anime Servators. Sometimes super hero Servators. And honestly the whole Servator thing I don’t and won’t engage in for this very reason.

Also, my client told me she was The Queen of the fairies not that a faerie approached her. And there is no doubt in my mind she is not the Queen of fairies.

As far as The Faerie Way book, I will make a separate post on that as it would be off topic for me to talk about it here :black_heart: but but I think if everybody studied my original post a little more they would see some of these answers are not regarding my original query. But I still am very much enjoying everybody’s input. It’s much appreciated and I love that we have this conversation going.

I just wish that so many delusional people didn’t try to make the occult into a fantasy game that’s what D and D is for. And I love DND. Lol!

:rainbow:Karma

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On the topic of the thread, it used to seem awfully grandiose of me to pursue that. Not like I have anything else to do. At this point, I am ignoring it. We’ll see

I see no reason why she couldn’t become a queen of fairies if she really wanted to. There is more than a few spirits that will help her achieve such as long as the dues are paid.

Zen

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There is a subset of the occult called Otherkin. These are people that believe their souls are non-human. They claim to spiritually be things like elves, dragons, demons, angels, fairies, etc. It’s kind of like spiritual cosplay.

The thing is, though, even if it’s true, they’re still in a human meat suit, which makes them just as human as everyone else. Having a non-human soul, royalty or not, doesn’t really matter at all in the physical realm. As one enlightened member of this forum once said, no matter what you think you are, a bullet to the head will end you just as surely as anyone else.

When someone claims to be a god, goddess, demon or angel, I always ask, “Okay, but what has it done for you down here? How has it improved your actual life?” The astral is the realm of the imagination, so you can literally be anything you can dream up there, so being royalty there means absolutely diddly-squat. However, if you seek an escape, the astral is the perfect place to go. If you’re lonely, you can have a harem of nubile succubi to keep you company in there, or if you feel insignificant, you can be a king of infinite space. The downside, though, is that it is really just all in your head, and it rarely, if ever, helps you in the material world.

In my time on this forum, I have seen a lot of people join up, proclaiming themselves to be this demonic king or that one, or this god or goddess, and they all seem to expect everyone to just accept it, and treat them with deference. They tend not to last too long here, though, because we generally laugh at them. Most of them can’t even answer basic questions, and they get offended that we dared to question them at all. And they always claim to be the Big Names, like Lucifer, Azazel, Belial, Satan, Set, Lilith, Hecate, etc. No one ever claims to be some obscure god from an obscure pantheon, it’s always one of the most popular figures, and after the twelfth Lucifer shows up and declares some fantasy novel nonsense, you pretty much just roll your eyes at it all.

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This. Perfectly put, brother :black_heart:

Excatly she claimed to be a Faerie Queen and she hadn’t pickup an occult book, done regular meditation, and when I asked her the questions you mentioned she couldn’t answer them. She just kept saying, “I just am!”

Another thought for some other redponses: People are taking some of this as a debate, and not reading the entirety of my post. If the people who have responded had read my entire post (like Darkestknight) they wouldn’t tell me it’s possible my client is the Queen of the Fairies. :roll_eyes:

If you want to respond to a thread make sure you’re responding about the proper thing we’re not arguing about royalty blood or Royal blood ties or demonic blood ties, were talking about people who are drawn to the occult purely for fantasy. And why they choose the occult to live said fantasy

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One of the weirdest types of royalty obsession I’ve encountered is the people who declare themselves to be the “one true wife/consort” of some Big Name, and think this somehow makes them important and the only authority on that spirit. While spiritual marriages are a real thing with a long history, being the wife or consort of a spirit does not, in any way, confer upon you special status in the physical world.

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I don’t know about the royalty crap, except a past life regression that revealed I was a murdered druid. A duel of sorts, but not honorably.
Do I think its sorta cool? Y. Do I believe it? N.

I think avoidant personality disorder types are drawn to the occult or drugs, or RPGs, or other games or revelry, because it is an escape from reality. I am here to try to fix/repair my life but not seeing hope at the end of the tunnel. So do I believe this? Drifting toward N.

Sometimes reality taken too far is what is needed to wake some people.

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If people can’t prove what they speak don’t tell others things they’d find very personal and obviously outlandish. From conversation with the likes of Lucifer, Baal, Enlil, etc, royalty isn’t fun and games, and it isn’t (well, SHOULDN’T be) a power trip either. If you’re not responsible enough to explain how your claim rings true you are not responsible enough to be in any realm of importance like that. I don’t understand how people can go straight to professionals and think they can fool them for whatever they want. Incredibly disrespectful to the professional and the entity that they’re attempting to impersonate (if said entity exists). Power is NOT a game, and it never will be.

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Precisely. And the super newbie occult people who usual say such things, never bothered to research it before even claiming it.

It is indeed insulting. And I definitely let them know as diplomatically as I can not to claim such fantasties. Hell on client told me she was a witch of 5 yrs and never heard of Bucklands book of magic…

Sadly, it is SUPER trendy to claim you’re a witch these days. People online use it for novelty and haven’t even cracked an occult book.

So we just roll our eyes and move along like @DarkestKnight said.

Mind you, if someone was willing to look at it in the way we do when confronted with an answer they don’t like, if they were open to learning and studying and hearing my opinion I’d happily teach them.

But I think with most of them, sadly enough, I will roll my eyes and move along. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes::black_heart:

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It is a control tactic. It is commonly found in cults where the leader is a powerful spirit and anyone who listens to him is a powerful spirit but just not as powerful as he is. What it does is give the person falling into the cult a sense of power and strength that they most likely did not have. Yet, it also contains that sense of power to an more powerful affirming person/leader.

Zen

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It is definitely possible with the assistance of certain spirits and a willingness to do what is needed. All she needs to do is to enter into a state of complete channeling and align to one or more that she is interested in.

Zen

As others have said when people claim to be the incarnation of Lilith, Set, Ra, Yahweh, Allah, Lucifer etc or the one true consort of the aforementioned I also just roll my eyes. I do think this is where people often mistake real magic with LARPing.

In any event I will repeat a quote I use in the mundane which is “If you are truly great then people will talk about what you have accomplished without being prompted. If you’re just average you yourself will be the only one talking about your accomplishments”

I see nothing wrong with just being an unknown magician who does magic without needing to boast about it. In fact I suspect the most powerful magicians have no need to boast about their power.

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My view is if your claiming you were royal x or mage y (like Merlin or Morgan le Feye) or mythical powerful monster z (like a dragon or a sphinx) it kind of shows you have poor self esteem in that you have to claim to be something more wonderful then your current life position.

As to claiming your soul was x (let’s say a dragon) or y (let’s say a cute little white bunny) even if it was what does it matter. Whether by choice or accident your a human in your current life so why should I care what you were before know what I mean?

If I see stuff like that I usually just tune out and go to a different thread cuz chances are there’s not gonna be anything pertinent to me in a thread where someone’s claiming they were Merlin or Queen Nefertiti or a dragon or a dwarf in a previous life.

Whether true or false I don’t care. I just figure nothing of interest to me in that so I just do a bye bye to the thread.

Add: it’s because hearing what they were won’t help me figure out what I was in a past life and hearing they were x, y or z in a previous life isn’t gonna teach me anything about how to be a better magickian that’s why I tune out . Likewise hearing they know the spirit of king x mage y or monster z. So in those cases.

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Excatly. Well put, it’s best to just move if they don’t listen to reason.

Like some who says she’s the Queen of the Faeries, if I say, you’re not this is why a, b, c I’m honestly wasting my breath.

I think this thread has helped me see that some people are who interested in “non-normal” subjects and beliefs gravatate towards the occult in hopes they find people to support their delusions. Those willing to learn will take a step back and re-evaluate. And those who won’t, as said prior by another, it’s best to roll our eyes and move along.

I just find it so weird to claim such grandiosity. Even when I began in the occult I never assumed such things about myself. So to see it become more & more prevalent in beginners is mind boggling.

I didn’t say whether I think they’re delusional or their not. I said I don’t care either way cuz their soul being or knowing x or y or z won’t help me advance myself magickally and won’t benefit me irl either. Neither will their delusions if they’re delusional.

So I can’t be bothered to even get into it with them let alone to talk sense into them if they need sense talked into them. Cuz talking sense with someone won’t advance me either.

I suggest if their claims bother you, if you can’t stand someone claiming to be a faery or a zombie or a purple people eater, maybe do what I do, tune out and leave them to their fancies and then go to a thread that’s more to your liking where you might learn something that helps you magickly, a different thread where people aren’t claiming to know Merlin or be Queen Elizabeth the first or to be king of the orcs.

Stick to threads where people aren’t saying stuff you find ridiculously larpy. Threads that are about stuff that interests you. If the content of the thread rubs you wrong go on and move on to a different thread.

Me I stick mainly to what will further me or sometimes (rarely) to where my experiences may be of help to the other person.

If something isn’t to my liking I remove myself as much as possible rather then try and change the other person to make them think as I do or even accept what I’m saying.

There’s better things to spend my energy on like magick, sorts, work, hobbies or cooking dinner rather then spend it trying to convince someone of something, and if they won’t listen I throw in the towel and their them to their opinions even if I think their crazy or wrong or just going about it ass backwards cuz In the end it’s on them. Like I said I have better things to do then flog a dead horse (as the saying goes).

Add: like when someone (not gonna name names or threads) said they wanted to be possessed (to paraphrase it: by any random spirit cuz they said they invited any nearby spirit that was willing to to enter into them and possess them ) I told why not and then when they seemed not to listen I left the thread ( like the ol cliche “Elvis has left the building”) not worth my time to get into a knock down drag down fight with someone who’s minds made up already.

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Positive change can only happen when both you and your client feel respected and when they feel that you are really interested in their well being. There needs to be some sort of feeling of working together.
So if you blatantly tell them what you think, they will not feel respected anymore, since being a faerie queen is what they build their confidence on.

There is a technique called Active Listening which can give you the opportunity to find out more about their views and their inner reasons why they feel the need to be a queen. And it can give you opportunity to voice your concern, in a good moment.
It is all about asking the right questions.

Also, never say “You need to do/change/stop …” but rather tell them stuff like “What you’ve just said makes me feel uncomfortable because …”

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Love that🖤 @Helena

Yes I think I definitely was diplomatic in my response, as she is coming back for another session. And I will be sure to address it more in depth if she is indeed serious about her path. Time will tell. Thank you for the diplomatic advice🥰

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