The Qlippothic sphere Da'at and Choronzon

From goetia girls:

nightmare riding your fear be transformed into a Night-Mare to otherwise ride, the astral body is then enabled to leave its corporeal vehicle behind; whereupon it can then hover around the globe, observing the usual objects, visiting the abodes of friends or loved ones, or even the depths of space; but the dreamer is constrained to his/her present universe, which is basically that of remote viewing from within the dream.

In Locale II, the dreaming reality becomes far more surreal; this locale, Dr John C. Lilly termed as the Unmarked-state, the Alchemists called, Solve. This is the region where varying entities exist of similarity to what the author Carlos Castaneda termed as the inorganic intelligence of the Allies, whom he describes as existing in a dimensional domain he called Penumbra or that of manifesting as a vast desert dividing worlds. The motif of the desert is utilised in the Cabbala for its thirteenth path, whose ascribed Hebrew letter is Gimel, meaning Camel. The thirteenth path penetrates the hidden 11th dimensional sphere of Da’at, where the magician experiences his consciousness accessing an abyss, which is the space between worlds.

When Monroe’s consciousness accessed Locale II he would sometimes experience being hassled by nightmarish beings, who reflected back his fear, and in doing so, attempted to drag his astral self back to Locale I; whereby impeding his progress, and generally made his inner experience unpleasant as if these entities were seeking to block him from accessing Locale III. However, Munroe stated, that Locale II was the 'natural environment of the Second Body’, where thought translates directly to 'bodily’ motion.

Locale III is where Monroe accessed an alternate Earth, via what he termed as being a (Rat tunnel) hole, which can be otherwise equated with a (Locale II, Unmarked-state/Solve) mini-wormhole, into which he slid into an (Marked-state/Coagula) alternate reality. The alternate Earth to all intents and purposes exists within a parallel universe. Monroe experienced this alternate Earth as being a material world, whose reality is almost identical to our own’. But there were differences, as Munroe described: “There are no electrical devices whatsoever.” Munroe observed that the transport of this alternate Earth utilised steam-driven locomotives, which sounds like a cross between an American motor-home and a High-Speed Train, which hauls wooden cars. The automobiles of this alternate Earth were twice as wide as Munroe’s own equivalents, which are driven along huge roads at a sluggish 15-20 mph.

After several slides into a parallel universe of Locale III, Monroe discovered an alternate Earth inhabitant who was his doppelganger. Monroe involuntarily enters into his double’s body; whereupon embarrassment and confusion ensue, which often involved a woman called 'Lea’, with whom slider Monroe becomes romantically attached, when sliding into his alternate self.

(Note: the name of Lea is derived from the LeannĂĄn sĂ­, Fairy-Lover [Succubus] of Celtic folklore,)

Monroe’s dream slides into Locale III, he otherwise called, intrusions. This alternate Earth has a three dimensional reality. As stated earlier, in part, Monroe related, that his intrusion into an alternate Earth as being, “a physical-matter world almost identical to our own. There are trees, houses, cities, people, artefacts and all the appurtenances of a reasonably civilized society.” However, Monroe observed that, Locale III had evolved on a somewhat different technological trajectory; there was no electricity or fossil fuels; its inhabitants relied instead on a sort of alternative power source. Perhaps, it is where the ideas of Nikola Tesla had taken root along with the further development of steam power, which had engendered an alternate Steampunk reality.

As for myself, I have slid into differing Locale III alternate Earth’s with the assistance of the Locale II (Lilith’s Harem) Allies. The Allies assume the forms of Succubae, whom then usher me through their vaginal (Vesica Pisces) stargates into alternate Earth’s. Some of the Locale III alternate Earth’s can be described as being Steampunk realities, although the slides into different alternate Earth’s is determined by what type of (Anima) Succubus (Art Muse) one conjures into Locale I, when to become lucid of awareness.

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I know this is an old topic but I’ll give some stories on this one. Da’ath simply translates to “knowledge,” similar to others like Keter (Crown) or Malkuth (Kingdom). There are various Archangels associated with the Tree and more depending on how they are broken down. A few diagrams show the 10 Sephira in normal positioning, Malkuth being held pendant and another Tree being reflected with the 10th sphere being the point of reflection, like a Cartesian graph (you know, the one from school with the four quadrants of X/Y? Rise over run?)

That’s a helpful diagram for beginners but Gershom Scholem believed more appropriately that the “Infernal” sephira are shells. That’s what Kellipoht means anyway, “shell, bark” as from a tree- a Tree of Life (ETS-Chayyim). In the most perfect sense, one would have to travel along the Tree, activate and purify each sephiroht and the various paths (pathworking), until they reached Da’ath.

As a side note, some traditions do not consider the upper three Sephira ever to be able to have a negative/wicked/infernal side as they remain untouched by the Fall of Adam. Somewhat true but the Red Dragon with seven heads wraps around the remaining seven sephira while the ten horns touches all, so it makes sense.

Anyway, Da’ath is considered by some to be the final position before reaching enlightenment, when the ego is completely shed from the magician (or whoever works it). That is where Choronzon resides. Choronzon is a strange name as it’s based on Enochian spelling. The same entity is usually synonymous with Abbadon/Appolyian, Samael or any other Angel of Death. There’s also equations between the Angels of Destruction and death/ire/vengeance, etc. that could also be used for more information on them. Gustav Davidson writes them in his book, “A Dictionary of Angels: Including the Fallen Angels.” There’s also a few spells and incantations you can use to evoke them. Or invoke them, if you wanted.

As a magician, it would be imprudent of me to tell you not to talk to them. That is your own spiritual journey. However, I will caution against doing things like that too soon for various reasons. If you’re doing it to be cool, you probably won’t speak to him/her/it, he may not be so inclined. You could also meet with a spirit disguising himself as Choronzon and will haunt you for some time. Likewise, you may in fact meet him and he will do his business. That’s when you’ll truly understand why Da’ath is the Abyssal Maw, it is the mouth of Tiamat/Leviathan. In fact, you could even equate it to Deathwing (WoW) or Alduin (Elder Scrolls: Skyrim)! Seriously though, they are nasty things. Otherwise, you’ll either die, go insane, reach enlightenment or nothing. Dragons, destroying angels, imperfect Kundalini energies (serpentines) are usually considered deadly because of unwise actions. I can’t stop you but be mindful of that. To be quite honest, I don’t think you truly need a sigil or anything, just a basic understanding of it’s purpose and a simple act of will. Three things are needed to work any form of magick: knowledge, skill and a positive attitude. Best of luck.

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This is a huge side comment however most consider Choronzon to be the guardian of the abyss and Daath. Well interestingly enough i found that Belial is the guardian daath on the
Qliphothic side of things. I found this out from a book i have ordered and read and am planning on working through. It is said that once one goes through Daatg on the Sephirah side that it leads to the Qliphoth side of the tree.

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It is a funny thing that after you look back at what was once YOU, it seems like that person died during the Ordeal of the Abyss. People call you by your old name, the earthly mundane name that is associated with your physical shell, but it is not you. You have no name really… As you, you have become the Abyss yourself, the infinity of all possibilities.

If one reads books from various authors, an opinion is formed that the Qliphotic entities seemingly exist on the far side of dimensional spectrum, but even after a first couple of evocations of them that judgment and opinion is rendered false. The relative ease by which these beings make incursion into our time and space makes it look like they were always close to us on the lower astral planes.

Like Gandalf after he battled the balrog in The Lord of the Rings? I’m still preparing to take this journey myself. I look forward to jumping head first into the abyss. Thanks for sharing.

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[quote=“invadenus, post:11, topic:96”]Choronzon can be contacted scrying the tenth Enochian aethyr ZAX. Crowley’s discription of the encounter is in The Vision and The Voice. The governor sigils used to unlock the gates can be found in Enochian Vision Magick by Duquette, and the scrying technique in John DeSalvo’s Lost Art of Enochian Magic works like a charm. Da’ath is actually Saturn, not Binah, as it is the gateway to the celestial, as well as a gateway to the infernal through the moon Titan. I don’t think Crowley had a chance to write a sigil down for Choronzon since he was under full possession and was busy trying to kill his scribe Victor Neuberg [url=http://hermetic.com/crowley/the-vision-and-the-voice/aethyr10.html]http://hermetic.com/crowley/the-vision-and-the-voice/aethyr10.html[/url][/quote]If Daat is Saturn then is Kether Neptune or Pluto?

I was under the impression Kether was Uranus.

I was under the impression Kether was Uranus.[/quote]My anus is no ones kingdom lol

Or is my head up my ass

After scrying into a sigil, Choronzon showed up. His presence wasnt ‘loud’ like other entities’, he was very subtle. As is my custom, i offered him a cig and to chat.
Q. What is your domain?
A. I saw a grid, with realities contained within them. The space behind this grid, was the Choronzon. It reached into every one. “Ravages of time” comes to mind.
Q. What would you do if incarnated here? Would you embrace the concepts of good and bad once in a mortal shell?
A. Indifferent, “that wont happen” vibe
Q. Could you communicate in a way i can understand?
A. The black space behind the earlier grid, shoots into a section and i see many eyes shifting, from grid, to universe, galaxy to sky, sky to mountain, mountain to funnel in front of me.
Q. Youve answered my questions, have you any for me?
A. No, i see all i need to.

A few days thereafter, i received a message. Choronzon hijacked a friends astral projection practice to relay this:

“I am the one who crawls beneath your skin; the one who burrows into your soul. Sadness, despair, hopelessness feeds me. The ones you love are fleeting, can you save them? I’ve always been here and I will stay forever. I am doubt, I am fear, and lastly; I am truth. You cannot try to hide for I will find you. You cannot try to run for I am ahead of you. Despair is what I crave and I have yet to be hungry. Many have tried to face me and many have fallen victim to the abyss that is I. I am the scissors that cut the rope that your friends are tossing down. I am the swift wave that washes you away from the beach. I hide in the shadows and wait for the right time to strike. I may appear friendly but I am made of malice.”

Now this tells me a few things, main of which being he will fuck shit up if need be. But he also says “i am truth”, and seems to wash away the false concepts of ego. Since this message, my sense of fear increased and spooky shit kept going down, but no outright poltergeist activity. Banishing works, if only temporarily.
My response after thinking on things and chatting with the higher self:

“I am the pain of a heretic burned. I am the hate that hides inside the heart. I am the voice that calls those back to the trials of their path. i am the apostle of black fire, and my purpose is to spread the flames of ascent. You have always been there, always testing, trying to drown the ascendant in the Pit. Hiding is not in my nature, running is not in my nature. You cut ropes given to the ascendant by others, but what when the ascendant makes their own? You hide in the shadows, behind a smile, concealing your true intent, but Ive known it all along. Fear-made Choronzon you hold no horror for me. We are the same, you and I. Your strikes and waves may crash upon me, but I am the mountaintop you strive for, and i will still stand until long after you are done. You have been created by me, to ensure I am worthy of the path I walk. Remember this, malice of the void; the form you have, i can take. The shape you desire, I can form. You are a test of my will, and even in this ego, my will is unyielding. I greet your malice with a smile, and offer to show you a better way. Do not block my path, follow me on it, that you too can become the flame with me.”

Since, hes tested me at times but hasnt been overtly aggressive when im awake. In dreams, i know that theres fuckery afoot, but so far everything has been cool

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Can you tell me more about Brugel?
F.e. where he is published?
What does he stand for?
What are his functions?