Which What is your opinion regarding Chavajoth’s objectives in our causal plane? Do you agree with the complete eradication of the cosmos or the destruction of the cosmos as we conceive it? This has been a recurring thought, and perhaps the TOBL has made some mistake in its collective gnosis?!
Would the ultimate goal of the entire Qliphoth truly be to reduce this world and others beyond this plane to dust?
I think it’s more a poetic way of explaining entropy, but it’s completely mistaken. Same as the older myth of Ahriman.
The tendency of the universe is not entropic at all, it’s towards now structure and order, in increasingly complexity and density.
I also don’t agree with the Gnostic view that physicality is a prison for spirit to be controlled. That control and usury exists, but as a side effect to be overcome, imo.
I think the physical vessel concept is relatively new in this universe and we’re still in the baby stages of working it out. The end goal is to have our cake and eat it too: gain the effortless semi-permanence, sovereign individuality and stability of physical creation, while also being fully connected to the universe as creator beings.
This is the same thing as being “christed” or ascended: or as BALG puts it, being a living god
Excellent response, thank you. Although our convictions diverge due to our different worldviews regarding existence, I am grateful for you sharing your vision with me.
The Book of Sitra Achra and the LF II present a radical and interesting approach that particularly appeals to me and resonates with my essence, but I believe that the entire Qliphoth agenda goes far beyond the mere eradication of linear life, this being only one among many truths.
It is not difficult to understand that we still have very little access to the Acausal and that little by little we receive its wisdom with much sacrifice and hard work, aeon after aeon a truth emerges from Chaos and enters this side of Tehiru.
Therefore, I share the gnosis of the TOBL, and at the same time I understand that there is much more than this aversion to the Demiurgic Order.
That’s an interesting question. For me most of the 218 current is a little too focussed on battling external “enemies”. Also necessary, but not my preference. The overall view is also a little too black and white for my taste. Exactly what I dislike about a lot of religious views as well
In terms of the Qliphoth, mainly focussing on the external Pralaya seems a little narrow sighted. In my opinion union with the 11 heads of the dragon is also in great part about conquering 11 potential “traps” that are well known to get you stuck in complex trauma loops. Getting intimately familiar with them gives the victor a great deal of knowledge, power and insight. Much like the less complex 7 deadly sins can either get you stuck in a shallow loop or experiencing them consciously can help you understand and deal with personal and collective pitfalls and help you grow beyond them.
I do, however, like a lot of the theory and thought behind chaos-gnosticism. Like, for instance, how there is only full potential in the void before creation. That and a lot of the more practical stuff has been great in my own occult development, especially the extensive practical knowledge about the Qliphoth there is among the followers, but I do think the overall philosophy could use some further research into the meriad of other (gnostic) views and some reconsiderations.
I will return in a few years to answer my own question, once I have received the blessings of the Wrathful Dragons, in accordance with the arduous and dedicated work through the teachings of 218/182.
I will also dedicate myself to going beyond the Current, with the goal of attaining and being worthy of the knowledge that has not yet been revealed to us.
If my Will is strong enough, I will succeed; if I never return, it is likely that the clay has extinguished the fire.
Until soon. Hail Chaos!