@DarkPriorities
So, thank you for giving me room to speak, I appreciate that. 
I think extremely conceptually/visually so hopefully you can understand what I’m putting into words, eep. Since I don’t want to derail your post, if there’s anything else deeper, we could PM since it is getting too comprehensive from my own side because I wanted to flesh out why I even said what I did.
I tried to make it as obvious as possible what I felt love and light meant to me by stating it here (…and perhaps the problem lies in doing it this way) :
I said it and left it open ended afterwards because I wanted to specifically not give hard descriptors to this terminology so that people would want to find their own definition of these long twisted words, because honestly, that’s what it is about.
Love and light, darkness, is you. And I can’t tell you what they are. No one can. And I think the longest pervading problem we have as people is defining things. It’s black or white. It’s good or bad. It’s love because it’s this way and light because it looks like this.
The moment we say “this is that,” it loses all meaning. Because we are so dependent on what came before us and that being right. That is how humanity has learned to survive over time. Blind trust. I know innovation is what pushed humanity forward, but I mean that over time, the majority stopped being interested in questioning or innovating things on a real scale because “things are the way they are”… and it is actively pushed down and silenced in our everyday life to accept things the way they are at face value. Either by… popular opinion, peers, family life, doubt, abuse, etc.
People work on long held ways of doing things to sustain themselves to survive (which is a necessity often!) and lose the plot entirely because we are so focused on what is and not what it could be, at any point.
This is how meaning gets lost over time. What the substance of something really is.
Life doesn’t allow you time to question things without losing something.
That’s not our fault, nor fair, but it becomes our responsibility to want to desire to look deeper and cast away what we were taught, eventually. See what resonates for ourselves best.
(I’m also not saying booo definitions baddd, that doesn’t make any sense. It’s when we are talking about concepts like this, where they get stuck in the mud by various people/energies and it never goes past “what it is,” and you ultimately never find “who you are”)
So… That’s just me generally speaking IMO. I’m not saying you are doing these things or acting like this/etc. Like, let’s look at all of my discourse in this thread as speaking on the specific comment I brought up as a whole with a wide berth, because that is what I was doing. Like theoretical and philosophical talk without definition, that is ultimately a question poised to anyone for self-reflection.
How I personally see the whole issue of love and light is that they are two words that are heavily manipulated on their own, which then turn into an even bigger nothing burger of control when put together.
It is said that love is priorly romantic, unconditional. Which turns into desperation, conditionality, control.
It is said that light is good, white/only one color, God, safe, love. So light became the Ultimate, the Divine, …white, the ruler, the way, the right.
People then begin to continuously, based off of others’ widespread experiences, see love a certain way. They see light a certain way. They take things literally to a toxic degree because they are unhealed within themselves (we all are, I’m saying when people don’t want to try or don’t know to try at all). They take these ideas and therefore act a certain way. Then we all unconsciously do. It’s a waterfall effect.
We don’t notice how the deeper meaning completely changes because we are right in the middle of how fast “culture” changes and takes control of our narrative. And then… it is how it is. Now, we’re totally lost as a larger society. The unconscious is invaded.
Then, say people do want to look deeper. Into spirituality, into their souls… suddenly, everything has to be sanitized. Because… deeper meaning? Real self? Idk her. All things that we are encouraged to turn our backs to because we must/it’s easier to stick to status quo and like, whatever first appears to us is easier sometimes. Especially when you have spiritual revelations, it can be so powerful you get lost on what you should really do/interpret it. And when you are comfortable (in a state of fear or peace), you may not notice to do more.
( Also, hence why we have… the word shadow. They aren’t truly shadows, they are just us. We don’t have to demonize aspects of ourselves as bad, wrong, scary, or good, they just are. They are not hidden TO me, they were hidden FROM me.
When I face myself I am not facing my shadow, I am facing me, or who wronged me. I am facing my story. Then, I find out: who am I? By categorizing such things like that, we are effectively silencing ourselves like everyone else already does to us. [Basically: Terms are fine in theory but when you believe 'em literally like Bible then… you’ve fucked yourself]. The original term for the shadow by Carl Jung seems to play with categorization, even, and it included positive and negative. A lot of the time, people only see shadow work as confronting bad things so… there you go, more lost in translation examples. )
Like “oh! This is the cool new out of this world thing, New Age! I saw the light, becoming spiritual means we’re all super deep man, we’re love and light man, we’re gonna ascend because that’s what the light wants and we should all love eachother. We should all heal eachother unconditionally. Aliens, angels, and stuff, higher beings man. We’re Lightworkers now because we follow xyz philosophy.” All while we have these precedented ideas in our subconscious which ultimately shape the meaning. Ideas that were created to stop the “light” (aka knowledge here) from coming in at all, but they don’t notice because well… blinded by the light/new discovery, hope for better things/world, and general manipulation from all sides.
Anything opposite of that is “bad” “selfish” “darkness.” Anyone that has a differing position is now dark, black magic.
It’s all groupthink. Now, you’ve got “meaning.” This is why certain color correspondences, ideas, are so powerful in “magic” because that is the popular meaning or function of something. Not necessarily always because it IS that way. It’s why IMO it’s better to search your own meanings for things in magic because they are close to YOUR heart and THEN it is more powerful than anything.
Or, when people are open to working with so-called darker beings (categorized as dark by the people that want/ed them to be negative, inaccessible for others, or fit their AwEsOmE narrative and lore) now they are dark aligned, now they’re infernal. Now, naturally, there is a shadow of “darkness” and dark energy around working with them, covering you (general) too in a shade.
But that shade, all those MULTITUDE of unconscious associations (I really mean UNconscious, it’s deep in the fabric of who we are from generations, hence so much work we have to do as humans to understand, know things, unravel notions in shadow work) is not reality.
It’s a shade for a reason, overwhelming for a reason. Heavy… for many reasons (valid, real ones but like it becomes even heavier when you are stuck in a mindset). It’s covering who they truly are, how these entities truly feel/act/exist. They’re dark because we say they are, not because they are. They just… are. WE ultimately… just are.
Categorization is okay, I am not talking about doing that for the sake of conveying ideas or feeling what we feel.
Here’s my moreso UPG thoughts on all this.
Darkness IMO is a vibration, simply. (no good or bad vibrations. maybe something feels worse to someone because they have a certain vibration, that’s probably because they don’t mesh. for example. or it is misconstrued. Don’t look deeper than that when I say this)
A way of being, not based on acts, but soul or like, a state someone is in. And perhaps it has to do more with… personality too… not because of what you like though. Like, she’s a cat because she is a cat. He’s Greg because he’s Greg. Idk what he does but he just vibes like that. Greg could be totally chilled out, a healer, ray of sunshine, but he’s Greg because he is. He’s not like other Gregs, but he is what he is. He’s dark/Greg.
But I DO NOT THINK there are only light and dark vibrations, like you can only be one or the other. There are many colors in darkness, many people. Many colors in the light, many people. Many in between. It’s Literally just soul color. That’s it… that’s one of my points… you’re just you. imo I think.
There’s evil ACTIONS, bad categorized by us because we don’t like it. Sneaky actions, hidden actions. Doesn’t make ya dark. Maybe someone on another planet/country sees that as GOOD/Light!!!
Ultimately what we think of them has nothing to do with the other person’s soul/state. But it’s what we think and that’s totally fine and good sometimes. As long as we know that. We exist after all, we have opinions, valid experiences which shape our understanding, and communities.
So… we go back to how I see light and love.
Let’s remove all meaning and look into our hearts (and NO, it is not “uwu gooey love and light” to work with your heart and even put it first. IMO Belial does this. Tbh HE taught me these things).
Your soul, your being is light. Light is who you are, your bad days, your good days. Dead or alive. You, as an existent, because you exist, are light. Even when you haven’t done all the self-work yet (but IMO it doesn’t become “fully realized” until you realize your consciousness as an individual and that you matter. Like that’s all, because life wants you to not realize you’re not a cog). Now, when I say this, and said my original quote, I am completely divorcing it from the vibration idea I said above. It’s like, you are sparkling, because you are real.
It is the light (ANY COLOR OF LIGHT) that bursts forward like a supernova. Brighter than existence. It’s you. I think you’re probably thinking I am assigning a color to the light to mean divinity or happy or good, but like, it’s just light, kind of how there’s a literal spectrum of it.
Still different from the whole soul color thing, that’s more about WHO YOU are.
You are love because… at your core, you are love. Does it mean you can’t commit certain acts? No. You are love means, you exist. You love yourself, no? You cared as much to exist, no? You cared enough to move, to grow. To think, if you can’t move or grow. To BE if you can do none any of that at all.
Your love is yours and no one else’s. It is OWED to NO ONE. It is not selfish, it is you. It is not given to you. You gave it to yourself. Anything beyond this, I’m not even talking about.
My work based in self discovery, freedom from abuse, and entrapment led me to these conclusions. And, yes I see pretty visually so I write this based on what I see in other bodies and my own.
So… Working with demons is a love and light ordeal. Doesn’t Lucifer/etc. represent showing you the light? They and TBH WHOMEVER you choose, — tbh I think working with magic/will at all will do this but I digress — will trigger SOME SORT of movements to walking within your soul, or your shadow. And you have to make the choice to face it or not. It’s okay to run, but come back when you are ready.
What you have been through, what you have inherited, is what’s killing you and hurting you. Especially environment and what odds you’ve been plopped into.
Different species have different methods of helping you see that. Even depending on who meshes with your personality best. Or based on what YOU need. It can be really intense, or playful.
But it will always be scary and it will be painful because, duh, life is terrible a lot of the time. People are terrible. It can hurt more if you are resistant to certain things. And beings entrap, manipulate you. Implants, yes, and it all FUCKING SUCKS and makes it harder. Remember I mentioned suppression of self/hurt by like, everyone, in this essay, and previously. We never disagreed there.
I didn’t want to bring personal experience into the discussion originally because this conversation wasn’t even supposed to be about us?? But for credibility sake, I was walking with infernal entities since childhood before even knowing what “magic/energy work” was. Encountered a LOT of imposter, hijacking, amongst brainwashing and control/abuse from the individuals in my real life. So I get it. But yeah, fae, angels, titans. Can all introduce harsh energy into your zone because of who they are individually, or as a species/where they are from, and what you’re facing in your life. Angels can suck, demons can too. Demons can be cuddly and loving/fatherly/motherly, even WANT things to be easier for you. Or not. Anyone can be dangerous. They can also transmute energy to be lighter so you can handle it.
I agree working with “infernal” can bring it DAMN harsh unto people. The Qlippoth too, I went through it as well. I still am. (I agree your post is absolutely a true and necessary warning) But… it’s hard to face yourself, isn’t it? To face the world for what it is. What is scarier than the human condition, or existing at all?
But ultimately, a journey into yourself, when fully realized as what it is, should be light and love in the most basic meaning, and that’s all I mean by it. Curated for you, based in freedom, to find yourself, and tbh that is the best, most pure reunion of all. I never said it’s pretty or comfy or fun always, but fighting for your own right to live often isn’t.
My main point is this is all about ultimately letting go of meaning to feel your heart, work on your heart, care for your heart, treasure it as valuable, as an individual, see what it all really means to you… because I can’t tell you.
