In the Shem chapter you said you won’t use Angelic supervision. Not sure if you remember me asking but in the evocation thread, I asked if it was possible to use Circle of power as a substitute to LBRP. Circle of power is a ritual with Metatron, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel and Michael. Should I not use that when evoking them? How do they feel about archangels as opposed to Shem? Should I not perform circle of power before evoking them?
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In all honesty I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone that has shared their experience evoking Bune/Bime and not say that she was female-esque. Everytime they always refer to her as a woman.
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I personally dont see a problem with what you’re doing. I use LBRP as a preliminary banishment in my temple workings.
I think where there COULD potentially be a problem is evoking multiple spirits at the same time. In that case the proximity of those two spectrums could be a problem.
I heard of a magician evoking Raphael at the same time as Azazel and the two of them were fighting like two cats trapped in a pillowcase.
Prince Orobas has told me straight up do not evoke me when angels are present and working it will just start a fight.
He also explained that he and others like him ( Goetic spirits) would cross a busy road before they’d encounter the angels on the sidewalk. He also said he’s not afraid of confrontation with them but doesn’t desire it because it’s not productive usually.
I Know this is going Abit beyond what you asked but it seemed relevant to tell you what he told me. 
Edit update:. I should add Prince Orobas doesn’t hate the angels or anything dramatic like that. There was an order operation I recall where we were tasked with finding someone who had gotten lost while hiking. Some members of the group opted to work with angels to rescue the lost party and I chose to work with Prince Orobas. The understanding we had was if Prince Orobas found the lost hiker first he was to deliver her to the custody of the angels searching also. Two sides of the spectrum working independently to achieve the same goal. This did not start a fight as each party was free to use thier own methods to accomplish the goal. We located our lost hiker in about an hour or so and everything ended well.
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The Prince Orobas and I having a jam session.
Fast forward to 2:00 into the song for a Spanish guitar solo Prince Orobas deeply enjoys. There’s another one at 4:12 he likes too.
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There’s a big difference between a preliminary banishment to clear the space your working in of ghosts, shadows and shells, ect and using shem angels to actually constrict and constrain a Goetic spirit. I think what you’re doing is fine.
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I thought about this statement most of the morning and more and more I agree with that. I’m personally uncomfortable with what I consider to be the excessive force merging of spirit identities as masks of eachother. I think alot of what we see with that is just another magicians Upg. A big problem is alot of magicians regard thier UPG as factual and present it as such.
I don’t like UPG and I don’t trust it, even when it’s mine and even when it feels right. I much prefer consensus and SPG.
I agree the universe is vast enough to contain a variety of entities from different, distinct pantheons and collections without them having to be masks of eachother. 
. Excellent food for thought.
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A pizza and drinks feast in honor of Prince Orobas and President Amy. They both have my gratitude for helping me to finish my book project here on Balg.
Thanks to everyone who took the time to read through it, I hope you found something valuable.
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Ok I have to update everyone the above Operation was not simply an example. It was a live operation that manifested tonight. This method of team leader layered Goetic work is the fire! It’s the truth!
My friend who I was estranged from contacted me and apologized to me for what happened between us.
Mission accomplished.
Guys this shit really works!
Big extra thanks to Duke Agares…you really came through. You tipped the balance for real.
This took about two weeks to manifest.
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The lost books - part 1
A simple angelic ritual that actually works
What you need 9 candles ( tea lights) , a saint or angel card ( printed is fine), incense, a glass of water.
Write your petition intention on a piece of paper and place the image of the Archangel you wish to contact on top of it.
I actually woke up with a wicked tooth ache this morning and it’s Sunday so no dentist is open. I’m calling on Archangel Raphael to help.
Light your stick of incense and place your glass of water near your angel image.
Light your candles and say " this is for the angels, and the Archangels, the powers, the thrones, the virtues, principalities, dominations, the seraphim and the cherubim."
Say “kadosh kadosh kadosh Adonai tzabaoth X3”
“Holy holy holy thou art lord God of the hosts”
Make your petition directly to the archangel you wish to work with.
This method is short and sweet and works.
I wish you success with it.
P.S. be sure to look out for call signs from the Archangels after the ceremony they like to give signs they’re working on your behalf.
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The lost books - Part 1.B
The Battle of the Birds…
This began about 2 months ago. I didn’t have an excellent experience with spirit Decarabia during the first time we met. I had asked him if he could stop the chickens from shitting all over my porch every afternoon. For the first week things went really well.
Then I did a tarot reading that showed that Decarabia was in hostile and clear opposition to me.
Then war began…in a surprise move the demon commanded his wretched birds ( 10 chickens) to attack and vex and torment me. I woke up to thier horrid crowing and went out to my porch table and found a scene from Hell. The birds had gotten up on my table ( my outdoor altar) and had made a mess of everything. They are my snacks, destroyed two tarot decks and had shit all over my table…this was war.
I ordered all of the chickens to be penned and imprisoned…all was quiet until they broke out of thier bamboo cage. The first thing these birds did was defiantly desecrate and defile my table again. I was even having strange dreams like Alfred Hitchcock presents the birds.
I ordered the chickens to be culled and planned to distribute the meat to needy families in the neighborhood.
The man responsible for catching the chickens mysteriously took ill for nearly ten days. It was a hellish nightmare of feathers and bird shit.
They even got into the house into my room just to shit all over my tiled floor. They were some real foul fowl.
This was madness. I evoked Decarabia and formally offered a peace treaty to him and gave him peace offerings.
Finally the chickens have been culled and peace and order have been restored.
I genuinely think this was a beef between me and Decarabia. I hope this is the end of it.
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When you say this, do you mean do it 4-8 times a session or 4-8 separate sessions in total?
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Four to eight sessions or until you’ve got the hang of it.
What do you mean by reward it its due? Like offer it something that seems fitting? I hope this isnt a stupid question.
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Not a stupid question @Jetsetrose
For example I evoke prince Orobas and offered to give him oats, tobacco, public praise and liquor in exchange for assistance with clairs.
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Okay thanks for answering! I was asking because in that chapter you said give the spirit to things like tea or coffee to keep him or her happy so I was wondering what would be what type of offering. Thank you!!!
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Let me clarify there are two rewards I use. First is during the evocation phase where I tell the spirit I will give you this in exchange for service working on my clairs for one month. This would be a contractual obligation.
The second I use is for the actual sessions of training. Then, coffee, tea, biscuits. Those things are appropriate after a training session.
Hope that makes what I meant more clear. Sorry if it got lost in the actual writing. @Jetsetrose
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Still can’t believe that the chickens defiled your working area. Incredible story 
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Yeah man that was real fowl lol .
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Lol … I know, I would’ve been flipping wings in hot sauce at this point…
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Hehehehe that’s awesome
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