I also remember quite well,
how Islam people responded to me,
when i revealed who i truely am to them.
what you just said,
and what i just said,
have to do with each other.
you’ve asked why it was written there,
In regards to the “no lies being told” aspect,
islam also teaches that there are good djinn “believers” and bad djinn “non believers”,
just like humans.
it explains that djinn even have their own society and compare it with human society aswell.
Suleiman (here more commonly known as Solomon),
was a Magician,
and according to your legend,
his power came from enslaving those Djinn,
that didn’t serve Allah willingly (the opposers),
by magick and seals.
Now what do you think,
when looking at that legend,
what those beings are capable of,
when working in unicin with humans,
out of their own free will,
instead of enslavement.
Look at yourself for that matter.
What do you do for your boss,
your job you are forced to do.
Do you apply all your skill and ability there?
are you a good slave?
or do you only use a fraction of your abilities when forced to act against your will,
and do much more,
when working out of your free will?
aren’t just merely servants of Allah.
What is clearly visible,
is the Islam had that knowledge since your prophet,
as you’ve said.
And what have they achieved?
How have their tribes lived over the millenia?
And what has been achieved within a couple decades,
since those Old Gods are working directly here again?
Keep your beliefs,
if you want to.
Maybe they even bring you to your form of heaven.
If you actually want to achiev something within your life,
they might however become an obstacle.
If god wants it.
Is a statement of slavery.
Everytime you pray,
and re-inforce that statement,
you give away power,
to be ruled by others.
Everytime you chant “im Shallah”,
Specifically Beings that talk here on this Forum,
have to decide how to fix your circumstance to what is requested.
That must also be written in the Koran,
but one will never come in contact with a good Djin as we both species are prohibited
from crossing dimensions … so if a Djin claims to be good - he has broken the barrier and contradicted its goodness by crossing dimensions so not good at all .
Soleiman was not a magician , but a prohpet of God who had asked for a kingdom that wasnt given to anyone before him nor will it be given to anyone after him -
god had granted him this - and clearly mentined in the Scriptures that suleiman did not disbeleive but was given the authority over the Jin and the power to command wind.
Sulaiman did not disbelieve , but the Shayatin (Djin/devils) disbelieved , teaching men magic and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels, Harut and Marut but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, "We are only for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us) …
regarding Djins working freely for you - one thing lets get clear Djins would NEVER work for anyone - hence god gave suileman the power over them to tie them down to his will.
you mentioned how ‘them’ people responded to you i assum you talking about muslims …
my friend i have nothing against you infact sharing our knowledge puts us on the sam platform … however in islam black magic is strongly prohibited and god advised for those would transgess will have everything they want in this short life . but will have sold thy share in the world after this (infinite spiritual world) so islam advises you against such practices …
i will inroduce myself shortly as currently at work and will be here often as i enjoy such mature conversations.
peace be upon you
also such cheapp magicians who claim to control Djin have sold their souls I.E the devilsDjinn will alwasy want something in return mostly you sanity ! and once their have completed the jobs the magician wants, they they slowly and eventually will claim you … so there is no question of ‘imagine what theyd do free willingly for you’
hence Sulieman does not fit the normal catagory of magicians as his power was given to him through supplication to god …
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angels do not have free will unlike us humans and djinns therefore nothing to be judhged on …
they adhere to whatever God commands -
Jibreel (gabriel) is the arch angel the chief of angels and the one who bought doew gods word to majority of the messangers …
i would like to read this info if you can provide the refrence as i beleive it to be totally false
Djins, are deceivers, manipulators and liers will promise you everything and then abandon you - even on the day of judgement you will stand before your creator and blame the djin who in return will say we only showed you the path and you chose for yourself…
i guess the question is not about hell or heaven…
its merely about your choice and what you prefer
by obeying and working with the djin - you will be rewarded in this world , fame money and what so ever you wish . but as mentioned you will have sold your share of the here after.
for me , thats a cheap deal … as id prefer to live for ever with everything i want eternally above this world (dunya in arabic means earth - but the deeper meaning is the lowest of the low) this earth was created as a punishment for adam why would i want to reside in such a low place worshiping the creation rather than the creator and settle for so very little … again its a deal not befitting me …
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