Hey everyone.
As some of you may know i am traversing the qliphoth. Im currently in daath and im being faced with ALOT of fear. Just this morning i was laying down in bed after waking up and i visibly saw a spider walk across my face in the astral while i had my eyes closed. This, at first, didnt really scare me however as i began to realize what it was the fear settled in and i had to sit up on the edge of my bed and allow the fear to flow…
Im worried though because i dont know whether it was a parasite or whether this spider was sent to trigger my shadow fear of spiders so i could integrate the absolute engulfing fear. Has anyone ever had this happen, or does anyone know of encountering spiders in daath, have you experienced spiders in daath?
Im feeling intuitively this wasnt a predatory encounter, i still feel my energy is here and infact it seems to increase in intensity as i integrate this huge fear.
i have a feeling there is infact spiders in daath and im also feeling inuitively that its a pretty common experience in daath to encounter spiders in some fashion or other.
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I’m seeing spiders as a very common form of astral wildlife that can be seen at any time in a liminal state or space, especially the one between sleep and waking. We see a lot of forum posts about spiders and I think there’s no smoke without fie - there’s just a lot of them about. I see spiders less than just blurred indistinct masses but I like spiders so there’s no hook there for me.
I’d say cover all your bases, but overall I’d chalk it up as what I call a “random”. The astral is as busy ime as your backyard, teeming with non-carnate life, thoughforms, memories, recordings, elementals, you name it, it’s kind of a mess… Wards are good for keeping out random astral thingies, like bug screens are on windows. Shields are like your insect repellent. e live in a swamp and most people can’t see any of it and don’t know it. You started to see it, I think.
So I’d cleanse and banish as a standard precaution, set up wards to keep your space cleaner, and then focus on clearing that phobia because you’ll probably see such things again as you go on.
For me, I didn’t see spiders in Daath, but I didn’t expect to and I wasn’t approaching it as a “place” where anything lives exactly. I see it as kind of like the event horizon of the Tao, and I was looking for knowledge about what I’m even doing here. So if there was anything I wasn’t paying attention to that level of being anyway.
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Makes sense. I will get some cleansing and banishing under way.
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Interesting! In Bertiaux system of Magick there’s Bawon Zariguin that’s said to weave the webs of time and space. He is said to be part of the Qliphoth and the Abyss (Death) where his brother Anamse is from Sephiroth. Zariguin is described as a big spider with a cadaveric human face in the center of the web of Space-Time.
This is a representation of him by Frater Vameri, which is a certified Tata (Quimbandeiro Priest), Pai de Santo (Umbanda Priest), and Hougan (from Haitian Vodou), he’s also initiated in the Ordo Templis Orientis Antiqua. He’s one my favorite authors because he’s from my country and he shows that you don’t need to get stuck in a single tradition or system, and that you should not have this prejudice against different systems. That painting of Zariguin is in his book that clarify the system of Bertiaux to some people that just sees it as “cultural appropriation”.
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Oh that’s a cool image, put’s me in mind of Satagraal from Kingdoms of Flame - he appeared in my minds eye like that - grey with the top hat and spidery effect only very large with a body and grey legs.
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So you at some time cursed someone to be in Daath 
I find this quite humorous 
But on a serious note, what are you even doing in Daath if you aren’t “controlling the experience?” What is your true AIM for being there 
Yeah its quite funny isnt it. It was my own sister and she died within 3 months after being in daath. She was quite heavily traumatized and werent gonna be sorting anything out any time soon, thought id throw her in daath to give her a chance but the real intent was to kill her cuz i knew she wouldnt be able to succeed. As a result she died, and was showing signs of insanity before death. Swift unstable personality changes.
I know my reasons for being in the qliphoth.
Fair enough. I guess I was just curious behind the reasoning you jumping in there after that Daath incident.
Im traversing it for my own personal growth, evolution and shadow integration. However, the qliphoth can be nasty business for someone who doesnt know the methods of going through it. Hence why i ask Choronzon to throw burdensome people in there sometimes.
