Spells Not working

Ok, so I have chanted and used sigils to various Gods/demons in hopes of getting a favorable outcome to a particular request this week and unfortunately it did not pan out as I had hoped. There’s probably many reasons as to why my wish was not granted. And in my particular case though I have felt and received confirmation of the spirits presence they have not been receptive to my requests. Why does it seem that when we put our hearts and minds into wanting something and then we reach out to the other side there’s a resounding NO on the other line??? I mean does that mean that we are ineffective at magick? I want to believe that it’s because there’s something better and that perhaps spells work better when they are in line with what is right for our paths. If something doesn’t work for our highest good no matter how much it hurts it needs to be taken away from us. What do you all think? Why does chanting, sigils, and spells not work out???

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What makes you so sure that they said no? Honestly, no matter how i felt in a ritual, i would go about making my request and see what happens. Tbh, i think its fairly rare for an entity to flat out say no, unless you’re asking them to do something they simply don’t have the power to do.

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Well my request was not granted so that is them saying No. At least to that particular request.

Chanting, sigils, and spells do work.

There could be a variety of reasons why your request was not granted, including but not limited to:

Lusting after results

Petitioning the wrong spirit

Not enough belief in your work

Lack of intent

Not allowing enough time for the spirit to work or asking for too much in too little time (Jake dumps his girlfriend, asks me out on a date and we get married, make it happen within the next 2 months)

Etc.

Those are just a few reasons why my spells haven’t worked in the past.

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Fair enough, but even still, the failure of a ritual doesn’t necessarily mean that they said no. One possibility is that your mindset after the ritual wasn’t where it needed to be. Lust for Result is a real thing that does hamper ones magick if you don’t get control of it. EA gives some good tips on this in this video. But there are other potential reasons too. I think the spirits saying “no” is among the least likely tbh

Hmmm, interesting. Well in that case it was probably the too little time factor for me and probably a bit of lusting after results. Wanting something so much that I end up jinxing myself for it. But, interestingly enough even though I did not get what I wanted I feel very calm and with a new sense of resolve.

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Yes, perhaps they have something better in mind. That’s why I think spell work sometimes may work best if our wishes aligns with what is best for us. For example: let’s say I am casting a spell on a specific man that I want and I feel that this is the man that I want and no other! And I invoke whatever God or spirit with my mind and heart fixated on that one man. Then voila! Nothing happens; I think gee well that didn’t work. But say another person casts a spell to find their divine counterpart asking that he/she be brought to them at the right time. Then voila! Their spell did work! Now did the first spell not work maybe not because the Spirits were unwilling but that the petitioner was fixated on something that was not meant for them as where the other spell caster was open and trusting that the best fit would be brought to them. Do you see where I am going with this?

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Well here’s the thing… At the end of the day, you are in the drivers seat of your own destiny. When you call up a spirit and tell them to do X, they typically aren’t going to do Y because they think Y would be better for you than X. They may go a different route because what you asked for is impossible or simply outside of their abilities, but generally a spirit you evoke is not going to dictate to you like Yaweh how you should live your life unless you ask. What tends to happen is people will ask for X…then X situation happens and if it was a bad call, it will backfire in their face and they will suffer the consequence. Here’s a good example:

Now there was a story by a user named @KenTabor back in September of 2014, where he basically had summoned Ladilok to help him have sex with a particular girl at his workplace. Now, ladilok succeeded in making this happen, but what ended up happening was that his boss found out about their fraternizing and fired him, which cost him a lot in time and money to recover from. Now did Ladilok know this would happen? I can’t say for certain. But what I do know is this…the thing you should worry about most when it comes to spirits is not that they will say no. Your main worry should be that they will say yes b/c when they say yes, they will give you exactly what you asked for in spite of the chain events of consequences that may come with that. So as a limited human being at the base of Jacobs ladder, without the vantage point of being able to see the whole chess board from above…it is sometimes wise to leave things in the hands of spirits versus being too specific in your requests, so that they may move the pieces in a way that would bring about the best outcomes. So this is where the advantage of casting a general spell/request for love comes into play versus targeting a specific individual.

One last thing when it comes to your spells not working. I don’t know exactly what you’re doing wrong without further information, but one common problem is that people sometimes struggle to bring their result into the present reality as if it has already happened. During the ritual and especially afterwards, its important to act as if what you have asked for has already come to pass. Azazel once stated to a user, “Act as if what you want to create is already there. Be one step ahead of creation and all of creation will follow you.”

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Isn’t that the truth @Verdo :thinking:

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Also @Edith_Guzman sometimes magick just fizzles and doesn’t work and there are alot of reasons why this can happen. I think @QueenMustang and @Verdo have described this very well already.

I quit magick for 8 years because the one time I really needed it to work it failed on me. I was so angry and broken hearted that I quit everything and lived a mundane life style for 8 years.

Now what I should have focused on is that I have a 70-80% success rate with magick. To me that’s pretty damn good.

So my point is focus on your succeses, learn from your mistakes. And accept that it won’t always work but usually it will.

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That was me today. I really needed to pass a test for a job as an interpreter. I really wanted the job and this was my second time taking the test and my second time asking a spirit for help. I definitely received confirmation of the spirit’s presence but unfortunately I did not pass. I felt really let down and cried a bit. But, I still have to keep believing that there’s something better out there and that my overall wish for an amazing career will manifest.

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I’ve had it happen to. But the worst is like what @Verdo said about getting what you wanted and then being sorry you did later.

I know with diligence and patience you’ll find suitable employment.

Hahaha, that’s just the thing. I have had suitable employment. I want AMAZING.

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Just curious, what spell/spirit did you use for this?

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Ronove. I was advised by someone in an FB group that he was the best for that. And I have to tell you I received confirmation that he was definitely present.

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Did you ask for his help the day before your exam?

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YES. That’s exactly how it happened. :sweat_smile::sweat_smile::joy::joy:

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And it’s ok, really. I just received word from others who were involved in the program that they did not pass the second time either. I have a tendency of beating myself up over perceived failures such as this when in reality things are not as bad as I make them out to be.

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Ah okay. Well a bit of advice…give the entities a bit more time to work. A day before the exam is a bit soon. I also question your use of Ronove for this task. He wouldn’t be my first choice. He does teach languages, but he doesn’t instantly download the knowledge into your head the day before an oral exam (i assume it was an oral exam). What would’ve been better would be to use an entity like Paimon to convince them to take you anyways, even if you didn’t fully pass the exam…or perhaps belial. Don’t put your focus on passing the test. What you really want is the job…so make your request about getting the job, not necessarily passing the test. Thats one route

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Yea, I should have done a lot of things differently. But, in retrospect I want an amazing career and if I would have gotten this job it would have just been another suitable job. It’s better if I focus all of my energy into a spell that will help me catapult my dream of being a successful writer. And in the meantime find another job that helps pay the bills.
What book do you recommend for working with the Goetia spirits?

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