Sigil Magick and candle Magick to influence lovers

I have tried to procure sexual interest from a certain girl for 2 and a half weeks using a candle magick spell and consecrating a sigil for paimon, sitri and asmoday. I tried each one waiting for a result and i believe i did it properly but nothing happened. there was one night after a candle spell and a sigil magick opertaion with Sitri that she was all over me that night actually asking to back to my room to hook up but she was drunk and also talked herself out of it later that night which was strange and the next day on i there was not an ounce of interest in me. I will go after other girls but I do want this one as well. Can anyone tell me why none of it is working?? Maybe E.A. can?

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It did work, your just tweakinā€™ a little bit. Let her go, just let it happen and put your focus on other shit for a while. She was willing to go, so it should be cool and brewinā€™ to happen fully. Iā€™d say you were successful, but maybe too much excitement and tension on your point to let it go through completely.

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Definately too much tension. FOund it hard to honestly keep my mind fully off it. Shes leaving school and will be a little far away. How long can it take to work?

Man, get a hobby! Iā€™m not saying that to be bogus, but you kinda have to not care too much. A while ago, I would see people trying to master psychic seduction, and everyone who failed cared WAAAY too much about the result. ā€œI been watchinā€™ for signs,ā€ ā€œIs it working!!!ā€, ā€œI been doing it for 1 month and nothing has happenedā€¦ā€ Itā€™s self-sabotage before things even get a chance to work.

When something happens that you know will happen, you often donā€™t have to think about it. When you walk, you know that one foot is going to step in front of another to systematically propel you forward. You donā€™t have to think about it, it is something that you know works. Itā€™s the same things here: magic works. If you put forth the proper focus and energy, itā€™s going to work. It seems like you did good work in ritual, so you donā€™t have to keep prying to figure out how it is going to happen. If you pried and worried about walking in the way that you appear to be worrying about this magic result, you would almost certainly:

  1. Trip a lot more often then not

  2. Fail to get where you want to go on time and/or

  3. Injure yourself

You basically would completely defeat the purpose of walking, not to mention a bunch more problems than you would have if you decided to not walk at all. So the thing is that the more you give into normal obsession or worry, the more likely you are to sabotage, because worry and obsession often bring up destructive habits that get in the way of what you are trying to do. You were already winning when she was all over you, so you can probably keep doing the work you are doing, and then go about your day peacefully. If soething doesnā€™t happen, switch it up, and try something else. But throw worry and anxiety out the window, because you really have no reason to possess it. You can focus, but that focus should probably go into the ritual, and then you possess a confidence that allows you to be calm. Thatā€™s all I can really say about it, if it makes any sense to you.

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It does. After those rituals itā€™s gotto work. I will do that and started to forget about it so I can let the magick do itā€™s work. Thankyou!

Lol. Mark of an amateur. Weā€™ve all been there. It did work. Thatā€™s how magic works. Path of least resistance. In all likelihood the spirits did EXACTLY what you asked of them, and NO MORE OR LESS than was contained in your charge to them. Thatā€™s why demons can sometimes REALLY fuck things up for you. But itā€™s not their fault. they do what they are asked to do. Maybe it was far easier for you to have sex with her when she was drunk, but if you donā€™t even have the mundane skills to pull a drunk girl ā€¦ live and learn. If you want something different, be more specific. If you want better luck, get a spirit to help you become seductive. Then again, in vino veritas, and maybe she is interested, but her conscious programming makes her treat her desires in a way that suppresses them.

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It really just sounds like a matter of being overly thirsty, which can also lead to giving non-specific or vague intents to spirits. Giliman09 should be fine if he just chills out, and stops worrying too hard. Then he can give a proper intent (if it was fucked up at all), or he can let the magick work (which, even if the intent was good, will be sabotaged with worry and anxiety, at least with love work anyway).

Gilman09 you are stressing this way to hard. Your worried about the girl leaving for a while but sheā€™ll be back, in the meantime try working on some other girls to hone your skills. If the girl is strong willed I wouldnā€™t suggest Paimon, when you try to force the will of a bull headed person it can often backfire in my experience. Sitri had the girl ready to give you what you wanted but you probably didnā€™t specify the parameters. Next time visualize the event how you want it to go down while opening the sigil. You could also try Dantalion as he causes love and also changes peopleā€™s minds.

Try one sigil for each girl, if you have three demons all trying to get the same result in their own special way their going to make a mess of things as their styles may not compliment each other.

If you can get the girl over to your place burn a candle with some sexual fluids on it. This will put your pheromones out and may help her find you more desirable. Add a bottle of wine or five, throw on a chick flick and work some mundane magic. Read some books on how to pick up women and apply that as well. Magick works its best when you give multiple ways for the desired results to manifest.

Sitri had the girl ready to give you what you wanted

Drunk girl ā€¦ nothing the next day ā€¦ typical of Sitri. Thereā€™s no reason to use Paimon at this stage. And as for Asmoday of the Ars Goetia ā€¦ holy shit, where the hell did he get that bright idea - he should be glad something REALLY BAD didnā€™t happen. Hereā€™s a tip: if youā€™re working with spirits from the Ars Goetia, stick to its description of the spirits. Donā€™t run off to other sources, and especially not the one that has ā€˜Hail Satan!ā€™ at the end of every paragraph. There are different entities that bear the same name, just as with humans.

[quote=ā€œPoete Maudit, post:9, topic:1103ā€]

Sitri had the girl ready to give you what you wanted

Drunk girl ā€¦ nothing the next day ā€¦ typical of Sitri. Thereā€™s no reason to use Paimon at this stage. And as for Asmoday of the Ars Goetia ā€¦ holy shit, where the hell did he get that bright idea - he should be glad something REALLY BAD didnā€™t happen. Hereā€™s a tip: if youā€™re working with spirits from the Ars Goetia, stick to its description of the spirits. Donā€™t run off to other sources, and especially not the one that has ā€˜Hail Satan!ā€™ at the end of every paragraph. There are different entities that bear the same name, just as with humans.[/quote]

That idea of Asmoday is from E.A.'s ebook.

well i have good skills. Iā€™m just friend zoned thats all. I used no sources but E.A.'s books such as become a living god.

Well, technique is only half the battle. You got to keep a cooler attitude, as everyone is saying here. Also, you might be better off going simpler, more direct psychic linking rather than evocation. If you evoke or use sigil magick, you better make sure your shit is specific, and you got to be confident and cool, like walking. Me personally, I prefer being more direct in terms of creating relationships of any sort, using techniques direct psychic links rather than working with entities. Thatā€™s just me, but you got options. Yours seemed to work, so you got to change your attitude.

Shit, I started making paper airplanes to take my mind off magic results, specifically money. I wasnā€™t playing when I said get a hobby, preferably something with a skill that, while relaxing, draws enough of your attention so that you can focus on it entirely, and that you can build off of it. Whatever it takes to calm you down and get you going about your day normally.

I havenā€™t developed the sight to do evocations yet so I did the sigil magick and candle mgick too. Ye my mind is cooling off. finals and my planing of a california trip this summer haha. Thankyou

Its a complicated friend zone and I tried that many times. I missed my opportunity 2 weeks ago and i think i need to let it go and try again ad not care so much

If your in the friend zone your likely fucked. Give her some space, put some love spells on her hot friends and just have fun. After a little while see if the opportunity will present itself again. The only way to get out of the friend zone is to not be available for her as a friend. As long as she can get what she needs from you without a relationship what is the incentive for the relationship?

You said you had results with the sigil magick so just use that to distract yourself from this girl. If you were just lookin for sex that shouldnā€™t be too hard, if you have feelings for this girl just tell her what you want/how you feel and that you canā€™t stay in the friend zone and make your next move based on her response.

Great advice from the wandering fool but Iā€™d like to add make her come to you. Put some distance there where she still knows you exist but youā€™re not really interacting with her. Itā€™ll put her off balance and make her wonder if sheā€™s missing something. Making your presence known but staying just out of reach is a tried and true tactic for temptation.

Kitari thats a good idea!
Thewanderingfool, the goal is just sex. candle spells might be good to do on her hot friends, I will think of people. But I will be a state away for a few months most likely. why is looking for sex not too hard?

Exactly Kitari, thatā€™s why I suggested he date her friends. Heā€™ll still be in contact with her in social situations but heā€™ll be ā€œoff limitsā€ because of the other girl and being in a relationship will keep him preoccupied. Sheā€™ll be able to see him but not have him in the ways she was accustomed to. That gives her time to think about what she is missing. If sheā€™s interested sheā€™ll let him know if she wasnā€™t he now has somebody to help him move on.

Humans hate to loose shit. Ally your magickal powers with some psychology (and of course good sense and a balanced life) knowledge and nothing can stop you from getting your girls.

All good advices are gave in this post.

[quote=ā€œGiliman09, post:18, topic:1103ā€]Kitari thats a good idea!
Thewanderingfool, the goal is just sex. candle spells might be good to do on her hot friends, I will think of people. But I will be a state away for a few months most likely. why is looking for sex not too hard?[/quote]

Getting sex is easier than maintaining a relationship is what I meant. Also there is less attachment to the person or the goal.If your just looking for sex you can always find A girl whoā€™s willing, you may have to change/lower/abandon any kinds of standards you have but you can get sex. You may have to settle for a wallflower instead of a supermodel.

If your just after sex from this girl your probably not actually attached or emotionally invested which should make moving on looking for other women much easier.