Hello everyone ! I am new into magic and I am kinda skeptical when its coming to work with demons, and even with angels too. I am a Christian and yes, I was raised by the word of the church, even though I am not the best practicioner I have some idea about what demons are and that working magic rituals, according to the church, is a sin.
I passed already this idea of sinning and I feel attracted to magic because I am looking to do the things in my favour, not hurting anybody, just making my life easier if possible. I guess everybody is doing magic for this reason.
Now, my question is : is there any danger working with these entities ? Iâve read many posts where people were saying that demons dont request much in exchange for the favours they do but is that for real ? Somebody experienced told me that doing magic without having a master is dangerous and they can ruin your life for goodâŚwhich I dont need. I am looking for honest answers from experienced practicionersâŚI thank you all, in advance !
Yes if you are a Christian⌠Demons are spirits who mirrors our shadow where our deepest fear lies which causes a negative psychic experience to some so intense that they screamed back to the church⌠Trying to bind them with Jehova names etc can cause them to be aggressive because they are defending themselves.
I tried to look at some sigils and I had some dreamsâŚI asked some demon for something and I dreamed saying that he canât help even though it was his âspecialityâ. But there was nothing bad in itâŚit felt like I was awake. I didnt do the ritual, I just watched the sigil. Thats Why I wanted to know if its safe to continue with the ritual. Thank you !
In this case I agree with @Kristian ⌠âwhat you fear is what you findâ, your own subconscious will block you from working with these entities the way that others who have different mindsets about them do.
I would say youâre better off staying away from so-called âdemonsâ and stick to church-approved saints and angels. Donât even try the pantheons of other religions, including the Qlipphoth, theyâre all demons and all verboten, youâre only allowed to work with yhwh.
So then you donât work with demons directly, you get ywhw under various names to do it for you adding a layer of insulation. This is called âSolomonic magickâ. Donât use sigils from âevilâ books, Christianity doesnât really have magick of itâs own any more, Yeshuah the Nazarean (look up who the Nazarenes really were) taught from a position of a mystery school that was suppressed and not approved by current âChristianâ churches who him into a death cult, so you would have to go back to Jewish magick in the Kabbalah.
But you are after all, a sheep and you have a shepherd you are supposed to follow, so you should talk to your local priest/vicar/pastor or whatever and follow his advice.
Yes. Youâre rebelling and accepting that you are going to âsinâ, but that very attitude that what you are doing is âbadâ will trip you up. It wonât be the âdemonsâ fault, youâll do it to yourself.
But you should know that no magick is âsafeâ it requires a level of personal responsibility and youâre supposed to give all that to the El called yhwh, who already told you not to talk to these things.
This is a conflict in energy and is at best likely to get in the way and block the magic so nothing happens, and at worst get cause problems by manifesting ugly and âevilâ disasters caused by âthe enemyâ.
Thatâs why you have to come at it from an antagonistic viewpoint, youâre going in as if itâs a fight youâre not working WITH the entities but forcing them into submission not in your own name but in the various names of yhwh. For some reason this makes it ok and not at all hypocritical.
Your intention and what space your mind and heart are in is everything. It still works but you will need to put in much more effort on your protections, hence the ceremonial approach and the LBRP etc. Youâre really only protecting yourself from your yourself, but it doesnât matter if it works.
I would caution that if youâre only here because âthe enemyâ is tempting you away from the righteous path, youâre setting yourself up to fall, you could get very sick and in a year or few youâll be repentant and worse off than you are now. So get a self righteous attitude on and that will help.
Good authors for this are Solomonic ones like Stephen skinner, books from the Golden Dawn, Damien Echols (see his youtube) and Israel Regardie.
Modern Magick: Twelve Lessons in the High Magickal Arts by Donald Michael Kraig
The Golden Dawn: The Original Account of the Teachings, Rites, and Ceremonies of the Hermetic Order by Israel Regardie and John Michael Greer
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Honestly, I would ignore all the anti-Christian nonsense like that spouted above. There is a huge anti-Christian bias on this forum. Christian magick is a real thing, and it is quite powerful. If youâre interested in working with the Goetia within a Christian paradigm, I highly recommend the Modern Goetic Grrimoire by Rufus Opus. He explains the proper hierarchy from the celestial down to the chthonic, and manâs place in between.
When I think about magic, I dont think that I am in sinâŚI know the church says it is but I dont care. I cant talk about magic with my pastor, no way. He will think of me being a creep, you knowâŚIn my youth, I studied school for becoming a priest, I finnished my studies but I didnt follow this path. I have a good relationship with some pastors and talking about this would make them go crazy. I thought about magic because I feed up prayingâŚand nobody listens. At least I dont feel everything goes my way or it goes too damn slow. In some cases, it doesnât go at all.
I dont know if I Well understand, Solomonic magic is safer for me to do, do you advise me to try it ? Thank you !
