Im not the type who’s ever had enemies. Nor the type to have ever wanted to do this. But I’ve a got a serious enemy whom id like to completely destroy. And this enemy i believe might have some good defense.
I dont know a thing about baneful magic neither have I ever tried it . All I know is that i need this person to go through what they’ve put me through a thousand times worse.
We have a bunch of tutorials here: Unofficial Tutorials: Baneful Magick Collection
Do get protections in place - baneful magick can ricochet off protections and hit your or people you know instead, so if you are newer to magick and don’t have these in place, it’s advisable to get this foundational work done first.
sounds like something Glasya Labolas could help with.
I like that you highlighted that these spells and workings sometimes tend to backfire.
Not only but as stated I’ve never used baneful Magick.Last time I tried it backfired , now I’ve got a treacherous goetia demon bothering me.
Is there anyone whom I can maybe get to work these for me. Cause I believe thate sole magicians are good healers , some are good with baneful magick and some success Magick. Not every magician is a jack of all trades
And you aware that the 72 demons of goetia tend to back fire right ? Even if they accomplish something , they coming for you next
And they are extremely intelligent to the point that no normal person will be able to tell that its them causing the chaos/ destruction in your own life.
I always asked myself why left hand path magicians struggled so much , why they struggle financially and why they suicidal . No one answered this question ! Until I got an answer. The 72 are too powerful to be controlled by a single human. And eventually you’ll forget you ever petitioned them. They dont forget, neither do they forgive. They work in the background slowly/rapidly deteriorating your life while you cant even notice it. You’ll think its your enemies or circumstance. Yet they the ones who are altering your life , bringing new enemies, breaking relationships and causing mischief
No I do not consider that it’s the entities fault. Like attracts like, that’s the fundamental law it all it boils down to.
I’m a big believer in personal responsibility. If you failed to control the energy flows and got backlash, that’s a learning experience for the mage to unravel why and mitigate it.
Seeing the djinn, gods, ETs and higher beings through the slopey-shouldered lens of JCI evil will do that to you. You manifest what you fear and expect. See then as “demons” and you bring out the demonic. This is under your complete control. But not if you don’t know yourself well enough. Know thyself is the most important tenet in hermeticism for good reason.
If its backfires, its on the magician/operator, not on the entity summoned. Be it cause they didnt have safeguards in place or had the willpower to control the entity. When the gate is open, it can never be closed again.
That is why binding works-it is your will to confront these aspects of yourself and say “I will not let you dictate my life”.
Shax and I had a rough start when I became aware of the 72 because I was afraid he’d take away my sight but it wasn’t that. He controlled my illusion. The idea of who I was. I learned that. Because eight years ago when he first showed up, I was “blinded” by my desire for romance and made it my whole being. As such, I only ever focused on literally every woman who came into my life that was nice or friendly to me as a potential partner.
It wasn’t him, it was me. Only through confronting him did I learn.
The rest of the 72 are no different. In self reflection and trying to understand the shadow self, the uninitiated will never understand the chaos manifested in their lives.
Ultimately I feel as if its a big test. They all test you to make sure you’re willing to grow past what blocks you. They’re not benevolent or malevolent. They’re just forces of chaos.
To make myself clear: I follow neither right hand path or left hand path. I follow what I consider the middle hand path.
It took me eight years and a breakup to understand that. I talked to my master about that recently as well. In my desire for romance I peacocked and thusly attracted someone else who peacocked. Two peacocks dont have each others best interests in mind and only bring out each others worse qualities.
It wasn’t a goetia like Shax, Asmoday, Furfur or anyone else. It was me. It was always me.
Main question is that how do I stop their chaotic influence. In specific the demon Gaap. I had petiotioned him to cause enmity between two people.
Following day he caused eneminity between me and someone else. Targets weren’t even affected one bit. Only to find out 3 months later that he is a treacherous demon. Not only just treacherous but absurdly powerful aswell.
Had i known he was that powerful i wouldn’t have called to him just like id never call to andras
Binding. Finishing the operation. Ive told you before.
You didn’t direct your petition properly either. You asked to cause enmity between two people but didn’t specify. As such, you have caused enmity between you and someone else because you didn’t direct it. You also lacked the will and protections in place to place it properly. Untethered chaos will manifest in your life in ways you dont think you’ll understand.
I also have Loki in my hearth. Loki manifests himself as chaos in my life but not bad chaos. Its always a game to him, always a test-it manifests itself as things like systems at work crashing or a machine not working and its almost always a way to tell me, “figure it out”
You’ve also been told by others on this thread to have protections in place as baneful magick, if not directed properly can be ricocheted and hit targets you dont intend to hit-be it yourself or others around you.
I think you are intending for “quick magick”. As i would call it. You go through the motions without the work. Without working on the self, you cannot hope to work on others. You’re asking others to do the work for you instead of relying on yourself.
There are other systems that dont rely on the goetia for baneful magick-The Galdrbok has a few of these that are in relation to curses. The most popular of which is the fart curse.
They don’t have this - you do. You have to not be chaotic, you have to maintain the steadiness in your energy.
I have met every Goetic entity and many more, and being an Earthy person, none of them are “chaotic” at all for me, with perhaps the exception of Andras and I was asking him to bring chaos to someone else, so - still my fault.
“Change yourself to change your world” - G.I. Gurdjieff
But if you don’t know yourself or why this happens, which you seem not to as you are seeking to blame external factors and magick is all internal, then you have to start there first.
There’s no getting around this:
Would be interested in hearing how Shax was like for you-As Ive stated in a lot of my posts before, he was almost like my “boogeyman” prior to binding.
Also don’t know what to expect with Bael other than a deep personal insight and asking big questions like “who am I?”
Shax I’d have to look up in my grimoire as it was years ago and I evoked him with his angelic counterpart as part of a long multi-day working called the 177 Wings of the Dragon, he didn’t stand out particularly.
Bael is one of my all-time favorite people, he’s very nice to me, and apparently remembers me as a old friend from other lives. He’s been very supportive and good for advice on how to approach and design workings and matters of personal growth. I met him for the first time doing Qlippoth work and later the same being came via sigil. He’s good for referring you to the right guys to talk to if he knows someone more specialized in it than him.
Well thank you for this , what is the greater chain curse. And another thing, cant I just license the spirit to depart . I don’t wish to communicate with him or to do workings with him anymore
I just need the chaos and destruction to stop. Cause now they trying to destroy my reputation
Get the book Angels of Wrath by Gordon Winterfield. That is exactly what it is for. I had a real pos bully at work a few years ago and it took her down. I’ve used it also on a few others. It’s never failed me yet. The rituals don’t need any special equipment and don’t take long to perform. You just need to do them with absolute focus and clear need.
License to depart? That is for Solomonic methods. You didn’t mention that before and it’s important… If you used Solomonic methods, that constrain the entity in the “name of god”: - and not yourself - and then didn’t use protections or give license t depart at the end of the ritual, then that would explain it.
Solomonic methods are designed to treat the entity as an enemy with power that you must force to do your will, and not doing it right does cause issues.
For this you probably want to use the greater banishing rituals.
I think they’re confusing what I told them because I use an adapted form of the solomonic method in my bindings-I treat em less like enemies and more as chaos being transformed in my bindings because they’re a part of me
Ah I see.
Ok @Ervin_Miller back up - how exactly did you perform the ritual, what was the intent, the wording, did you use a sigil and leave it open or close it, and what protections did you set up?
Maybe we are making assumptions about what you did that are incorrect and not helpful for troubleshooting, and which entity is this exactly - Gaap?
No, it’s not Solomon specific. It’s literally just giving the spirit permission to leave. You called there under authority, whether that is yours or God’s, so it is only right to allow it to go about it’s business.. Even EA Koetting does so in his rituals.
I guess I don’t call it that. They don’t need a “license” for it, in my worldview.