Satanic youth/adolescence

greetings! I’m quite curious to know what other satanists may think of teens who follow the religion, I never see too many people talking about it, and none of the books that I’ve looked into have said anything on the topic either(only one book has ever mentioned anything, and I’ll be honest, I didn’t very much like the author) of course this is not at all meant to be judgmental. I’m simply curious! :slight_smile: (sorry if this seems like a silly question!)

any thoughts?

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I made a mistake. When you asked about religion, I thought of Satanism. That’s why a cult is a religion. But I don’t think it’s worth deleting my post. The evils of religion are perfectly pointed out in the book OPUS DIABOLI. These are facts so perfect that they knock religion out like a professional heavyweight boxer.

WHAT WILL DESTROY RELIGION IN THE FUTURE IS TRUTH.

Religion is fear, lack of knowledge, and ignorance, which fuels religion. It’s the same fuel that fuels hell. What am I supposed to think of these young people? I feel sorry for them. It’s truly heartbreaking how many will commit suicide or destroy themselves because of religion. I believe that millions of souls have been damned by religion forever.

I believe I’m above all that. I don’t care about such things. I simply do my own thing. What matters is the effectiveness of the tools. Yes, I am connected to what people are afraid of.

Every case is different. Someone who was born from darkness and pain is ready for this path - that’s how it was with me - but I’m still drawn toward the higher light because of its effectiveness.

I like metal music - I love it. But I feel disgust when I see kids screaming and thrashing around like they’re high, participating in a collective ritual at concerts, chanting signs and words at the command of the performer and the crowd — things they don’t even understand, like dumb sheep. How is that different from religion? It’s not. Others do it, so I’ll do it too.

I call Satan the Lord of Pain - and that’s exactly what he is.

Great part of my enlightenment came through intense pain. When the pain became unbearable, I looked for methods to escape my personal hell. And I succeeded though almost always through methods of the light.

Let me present a vision to you:

In a conscious state, I couldn’t get up from my astral bed. I said, “Satan, help me rise!”

From within my guts, barbed wire grew and wrapped around my liver. Immediately after waking, I remembered one of Satan’s sigils that resembles just such barbed wire. Normally, I wake within the dream when pain or pleasure becomes too great, but here - here was no such escape, which surprised me.

Believe me, the pain was real. People faint under such pain, but that wasn’t possible here. That is what Satan is: a current of evolution and the teacher of pain.

That’s what I think about the trend of satanic symbols. It’s not something to wear as a fashionable accessory. It’s a force that very few can truly carry.

Christians wear the crucified God around their neck a symbol of suffering and that’s exactly what their lives are like. The inverted pentagram is considered a symbol of Satan whom I call the Lord of Pain.

It reminds me of a statement from a Black Magician on the BehemothX channel. He said something like:

“You see these people smiling on social media, claiming to be into black magic - but when you meet them, they’re full of anger and dissatisfaction.”

I don’t want to compare Satanism to Christianity. I just believe that everyone should use their own mind, not blindly consume propaganda.

Let no one fall into extremes.

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I think it doesn’t get mentioned a lot, because for most teens that are into satanism it’s either a reaction to and rebellion of strict religious upbringing and/or a new and shiny way to explore your identity. It’s only a tiny few that actually stick to it and become more serious about it as adults. Which is exactly how it should be.

As a former edgelord blackmetal teen (still a metalhead, just way past my teen years) and one of the few that stuck with it and now heavy into Luciferian philosophy and withcraft spirituality. I don’t see the benefit of addressing this, unless you’re a devout christian trying to spread fear in your congregation for whatever reason.

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I agree. Indeed, what matters is cultivation. That’s why I respect every adept, regardless of the system. Religion has nothing to offer, so it scares people with Satanism and the occult. But how many Satanists are there? Where are they?

When they have nothing, they always have fear to sow in people’s hearts.

Rebellion it’s the greatest sin and the greatest virtue.

Rebellion is born of pride, and a man without pride is like a lion without fangs and claws. Yes, there is a certain benefit in sowing the seed of rebellion in a world full of lies. And that’s a good thing.

Now I will tell you all something that Christians will never understand, it is from rebellion that the angels fell, but it is from rebellion that saints born and rise to virtue and power.

Every medal has two sides

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Agreed, when I first started out I initially liked some of the Satanic principles (granted I was also a former edgelord at the time) but I find the Luciferian philosophy far more balanced despite being more into Trika now. As far as I’m aware Satanism could be either an atheistic philosophy or a theistic philosophy involving worshipping Satan and demons, neither of which I’m a fan of.

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After looking through the replies, I now have a new question on my mind. :thinking: What do people in general think of satanists. Not just the youth. I’m seeing a lot of people agree that teens follow the religion as a means of rebellion, and to some extent. I agree! Because that’s partially what satanism is (the atheistic kind anyway.) it’s a sign of self empowerment and rebellion against “the norms” as people call it.

However when it comes to theistic satanism, (whether the follower is an adult or teen) it’s a bit of a different reaction. I’ve noticed people seem to think that the follower is just blind, or they don’t understand the full religion. Why is that I wonder? I mean part of satanism is the search for knowledge, And as a theistic Satanist myself. I am always searching for more knowledge. Even if there is none to be had.

I suppose I’m just curious as to why there’s so much doubt towards Satanism, and not any other religion. (And yes. I’m aware almost every religion comes with doubt, but I feel there’s a noticably larger sense of doubt with Satanism in particular.)

Because Satanism is the new kid on the religious block. It didn’t really exist until the 20th Century. Previously, worshipping the egregore of Satan was done within the context of Christianity and Catholicism (which makes sense since these religions created the character of Satan). It’s similar to Wicca, which also didn’t exist until the 20th Century, no matter how many people like to claim it comes from ancient goddess worship.

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The answer is very simple:

Because darkness must be balanced by light. It’s not a pleasant warmth that warms, but a fire that burns.

I noticed that there’s something in darkness that doesn’t harmonize with the human body, leading to its destruction.

People sense this subconsciously.

People know that the Gods are luminous and righteous.
Man, seeking enlightenment, subconsciously followed its source.

Demonism is not an easy path: it’s a hard path, but even this is necessary in the divine plan.

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I saw stay away from the idea of it, when I see the idea of a Satanist, I just see a bunch of stuff with no real spiritual substance, no balance, and no real conscious contact. It’s mostly people countering Christianity and it’s fictions, but there is nothing really there, except edge-lords.

There is no prograganda in the satanic religion because the god to be worshipped is the Self. Being a Satanist is to be like the devil and since the devil rebelled against god because of his pride it make sense to say that a Satanist is his or her own god no matter if they believe Satan to be a real being or not.

Untrue. That only applies to LaVeyan Satanism, which is mainly a huge tongue-in-cheek satirical effort as it’s atheistic. LaVey said so himself and denounced the whole thing before he died.

Satanism isn’t an organized religion and has no monolithic unified set of beliefs, not even being firmly set in the JCI paradigm, though they all copy the obviously Christian ideas of “satan”. Other Other satanic groups get very political and absolutely engage in propaganda.

ALL religions are really cults. They all started as cults and maintain cult elements - once they get big enough to be normalized, they get called a religion, but the control never stops.

Cults have a clear definition, and all religious groups cross most of these lines and many all of them at some point.

That was an infiltration by the Catholics, who are actually Jewish and that means satanic, to undermine the threat tat Christ represented to the authoritarian approach of the Jewish religion.
I find it cruel and psychologically debilitating that they were imposed to have the symbol of thier leaders death replace the actual symbol of Christianity that the Christ chose, which was a fish, representing the miracle of the laves and fishes.

Jesus never taught the cruelty of babies being born in sin just because a church official hadn’t baptized them. Jesus never taught people to hate themselves and consider themselves lesser or “poor sinners” without morals unless the church gives them ethics.

Jesus literally, in words, in a book that was banned by Constantine for Catholic church, told the Jews that they Worshiped Satan.

And the god of the Old testament is therefore not god, but Satan. Judaism was tacked on with the Jewish Tanakh disguised as the old testament - Christianity was bastardized into Judaism-lite in 300 AD by Constanine. Judaism and the cult Islam it created have every one of those cult warning signs.

Some Christian sects don’t include the Old Testament and ONLY follow the words of Jesus Christ, and brought back the discarded apocrypha of Enoch, John etc., (there were over 30 books - supposedly the word of god - hidden by the church because they taught people to think for themselves or gave history they didn’t want known) oh, and the red letters, and I think they are the closest to actually being true Christians following only Jesus not Satan.

The “red letters” are the actual recorded words of Jesus - and I think none of them were retained in the current bibles. When you read what Jesus actually said, it makes a lot more sense, isn’t self-contradicting, isn’t cruel or punishing, there’s no hell and no heaven, there is you, right here and now, and the father.
BTW Jesus names himself, in those word, the Morning Start bringing the light of a new dawn to the world - Jesus is Lucifer and Lucifer is not Satan.

That literally IS propaganda.

If you think about it, you have a warlord, one of many, all re an El, called or Elohim or Els if you anglicize it, and they are all equal, same as all human leaders are all leaders. Then Yahweh decides he wants it all, and starts killing people who are loyal to any other El.

You realize that means Yahweh - aka Satan - started the war, and won, and the winners write the history so the losers got written as being “prideful” - for basically defending themselves and sticking up for humanity as they didn’t agree we should be Yahweh’s slaves.

Satan inverses everything - so then as “satan” is bad, the propaganda is that these entities who have only ever helped humanity get called devils, while the actual really bad guy gets painted the good guy. THIS is why Lucifer gets conflated with Satan, because he’s Jesus and the good guy trying to help us. More propaganda.

Actually if that isn’t the BEST propaganda trick in the history of this epoch, I don’t know what is.

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No, it applies to all Satanists whatever they are LaVeyan or not. They can identify themselves with Satan because they are their own gods.

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My point is that being a Satanist is a personality trait. Satanists are individuals who identifying themselves with Satan as an archetype. Yes some do believe he is exist but just because Satan exist would not make him less an archetype.

Tat is an opinion, but it’s not everybodies opinion. You don’t get to decide wat is “true” for othesr, only for yourself.

Imo Stan isn’t even a real sovereign being, for example. It’s a human created egregore representing the evil in mankind itself, personified. It’s a fake scapegoat and nothing more interesting than that. :woman_shrugging:

That’s not how that works. It’s an identification, not a personality.

That’s not what an archetype is either. This is how archetypes work: there’s 12 of them. “Satan” isn’t one of them. That’s too simplistic, as there are many reasons people act the ways they do, and no one archetype fits all reasons.

https://positivepsychology.com/jungian-archetypes/

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I don’t talk about Jungian archetypes. I talk about Satan as a character that reflects a personality trait and other human traits. The classic myth of Satan is the accuser who rebelled against Jahveh because of his pride. That reflects an individiual who is his own god.

The Trickster archetype and The Adversary and “dark and less benevolent” gods to the essence of the untamed wild are abundant in every religion. From The Black Goat of the Pyrenese, to Apep, to The Great God Pan, to Cernunnos, to Tiamat, to Hades, to Loki, to Dhumavati, to The Crone, to Reynaerde The Fox, to the wolf figure in fairy tales etc. etc. There’s loads to unpack in terms of the adversarial current without having to consider even half a biblical passage. So unless you make the battle against christ your mission. Be sure to widen your view from the abrahamic propaganda.

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Love them! There’s youthful, fresh minds with new perspectives in every religion. I was there once, and now I am not a teen

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TBH it really is not anyone’s place to judge you at any age what you feel in yourself as true belief on the path you decide to take spiritually. People only judge what they fear or have severe lack of knowledge in. I feel (My own conclusions) most are blinded by the non-left-hand path and don’t want to search for more knowledge and go through life unfulfilled because they are not open to free will and choice.

coming back to this conversation to give my own thoughts, (now that I’ve actually found the time to think it over.)

In my own personal opinion, I feel as though children are the heart of almost every religion! Kids question everything, and commonly they seek out more information than just what they are told because they really do want to learn! this much is especially true for teenagers. Who are so desperate to find themselves. They are willing to do the research(from personal observation).

Children are some of the most straight forward people you will ever meet. (I should know. I work with them.) They want to learn, yes. but at the same time; aren’t afraid to challenge the ideals they’re being taught! it’s refreshing if anything, seeing young people experiment with religion, especially Satanism, which clearly encourages people to have their own thoughts, it’s the perfect opportunity for new perspectives to be presented. It’s exactly as people say, “children are the future”.