Reverse baptism

I need to perform a thorough reverse baptism on myself. I was formally baptised in the C of E as a baby. I’ve searched but haven’t found anything useful. How would you go about doing a reverse baptism?

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what do you mean by reverse baptism? If your intention is to annul the baptism or renounce the church, you can ask for apostasy.

Speaking from experience, as I was baptised into the Church of England as well, you don’t need to bother. Maybe it depends on the spiritual abilities of your vicar, but mine was clearly useless because it never took and I’ve never had an issue.

It occurs to me that the C of E is like xtian vaccine, it’s such a weak form of catholisism it improves your spiritual immunity against xtianity rather than overtaking you and giving you xtianitis. :joy_cat:

Could just be a me thing, though.

What problems are you having that you think ceremonially renouncing will fix?

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The purpose is to clear the toxic conditioning and crap out of my unconscious mind, and effectively sever the connection/ties between Yahweh and myself. But there is a reverse baptism in the new Satan book coming out, and I’ve been advised this evening to wait for that.

Self can overcome anything spiritual if your will is great enough. I personally collect the experience of different baptisms. Each experience is a reflection for me to soak in. The ones done by others seems hollow and fake tbh. I don’t put much stock in the church practices alone. Its a matter of what you put into it. If you leave and forget or force another path it will be what you put in. While the old path may always be there i find it hardly gets in the way. I’d dare say its a weak minded individual who feels there is a weight or tether blocking them from progressing in their chosen path.

Imho, one should cherish the challenge and adversary of obstacles in the journey. The journey is more important than the destinatiin imho.

I’m not a weak minded person and I don’t subscribe to this school of thought. Instead, it’s people who try to inflict mental torment and control on others they feel threatened by who are weak minded.

The unconscious stuff is what is causing my mental distress, when I’m already starting to recover from the trauma of having my mind controlled earlier this year.

I don’t disagree - acceptance can work wonders, but life is meant to be fun, not full of suffering. :wink:

No you don’t. You can just negate the baptism by thought alone. The Catholic Church did it in mass.

Does being baptised hinder anything in the magickal sense? Like can it prevent you from anything?

Well, to answer that we have to figure out exactly what is happening in baptism, from an occult perspective.

As far as I can tell, and baptists might disagree, it’s a magickal rite that has two purposes,

  1. It is a cleansing and banishing, not much different than regular cleansings
  2. It is a dedication, an occult way of saying it might be a pact

In my opinion, in these times, it’s not possible to make a pact on behalf of another without thier will - thier spirit and also consciousness must be involved and in agreement, or it doesn’t work properly.
I realised this after I failed to follow up with the BALG Lucifuge pactworking - I finally watched the pact video months later and felt it kick in, up until then, I hadn’t been there in spirit, even although I’d agreed in spirit - it seems it needed both.

This means, my theory is that babysitting young children… not useless, but doesn’t bind the child into the pact unless it’s higher self wants that. It keeps the cleansing and social aspects.

I think this has changed with the times, and this used to be possible in the age of Pisces, but the age of Aquarius means an energy shift away from top-down control and into independence, and that affects things. Or simply that the veil is so thick now it needs a lot to get anything done, the direct involvement of the practitioner is huge.

Adults getting baptised are fully into the idea and consciously agreeing to the pact. I think this is why baptists like the Amish don’t consider children to be in the church, and they have to make a decision about that when they become an adult.

So the next question is what IS the pact in any given baptism? And who is it with?
This is where the Vicar as well as the version of the occult texts the sect adhered to matter a lot - your pact is with them first, and the egregores and ghosts in the system, and finally the deities, who may or may not be present in more than name, or may not be who you think. (I’ve heard of satanists acting as vicars as part of the sects fighting each other, for example, that’s just going to be a mess and no real pact will form, as intended by the ritual leader.)

SO it will probably vary from sect to sect and cult to cult. But in most forms of xtianity you’ve got the 10 commandments and the rules of the system. E.g. an agreement that if you go against the commandments or the teachings you take on this thing called “sin”, which can be “redeemed” if you do what your priest tells you to etc. All of this imo is human magick to maintain authority, sin is not a real thing, spiritually. It’s a binding caused by a mage, effectively.
A major concern is that most xtian pacts try to bind your spirits location after death into places under the control of the entity, to be used for it’s own purposes. This very much limits spiritual growth and opportunities.

All of this is the same stuff underneath with different language.

So, given all that, to finally answer the question:

Does being baptised hinder anything in the magickal sense? Like can it prevent you from anything?

It depends. :slight_smile: On whether you have a pact, who the pact is with, and what you agreed to in the pact.
If you are in a pact, and the pact limits you to say, not “harm your brother”, then you may find you have a lot of trouble doing baneful magick against “brothers”.

In this case magickally breaking the pact makes sense.

My feeling for the OP here was that babies baptised under an authentic CofE Vicar have nothing much happen. CofE seem less an offshoot of Catholicism than apostate from it, and the strength of belief is minimal. I don’t think that will always be true.

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I have been baptized a few times and i dont remember a pact ever being made

Thank you for the information!

No, but it can create other issues for some of us.

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Ah okay, thank you

In my case, being baptised basically enslaved me to Jehovah/Yahweh. So when I broke a certain commandment, he dragged me through hell for 2 years until I accepted damnation. It’s a bit complex because of other details I won’t go into, but even though I’m no longer enslaved, I still have issues stemming from the unconscious part of my mind. The reverse baptism ritual will, in essence, flush him from my system more completely, so to speak.

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Yeah, since you were there, and you’re an occultist, hopefully you could feel it. If not you might find you can trace issues back to that day or some symbol representing your commitment. But if no commitment was in your heart and will, and you were just going through the motions, there’s not enough power behind it, same as doing a ritual and not connecting.

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Oh okay, that makes sense, thank you

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Life is survival. What we believe it is supposed to be is what we desire more than reality.

Take this current covid engineering. its terrible. I nearly no sense of smell nor taste due to dying or dead olefactory nerves. I had gauged the loss to be temporary but science is finding its worse on untreated individuals.

[quote] Five things to know about smell and taste loss in COVID-19
May 21, 2020
While fever, cough and shortness of breath have characterized the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) updated its list of common symptoms in late April to include a new loss of smell or taste.

According to Justin Turner, MD, PhD, associate professor of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery and medical director of Vanderbilt University Medical Center’s Smell and Taste Center, it’s not uncommon for patients with viral upper respiratory infections to experience a temporary — or sometimes permanent — loss of taste or smell. These symptoms appear to be particularly prevalent in COVID-19.

Since COVID-19 is a new disease, little is known about the long-term outcomes of patients with these symptoms, but ongoing studies have provided insight into when these symptoms arise and who experiences them.

Q: How common is smell and taste loss in COVID-19?
Up to 80% of people who test positive for COVID-19 have subjective complaints of smell or taste loss. That percentage rises when these patients are tested using objective methods that measure smell function. Most patients first notice problems with their sense of smell, but because smell is necessary to taste flavor, the symptoms are often connected.

Q: What is known about the COVID-19 cases where these symptoms occur?
A recent study based on retrospective data showed that patients who had normal smell function in COVID-19 appeared to have a worse disease course and were more likely to be hospitalized and placed on a ventilator. This suggests patients who experience smell dysfunction may have a milder infection or disease. The data we have so far also suggest that in a substantial percentage of the COVID-19-infected population, smell loss can be one of the first — or only — signs of disease. It may precede symptoms that are more commonly associated with COVID-19, such as cough and fever. It has even been proposed that smell and taste loss could be a screening tool since these symptoms appear so early.

Q: How can a virus cause smell and taste loss?
One possibility is that people with upper respiratory infections often have congestion, drainage and other nasal symptoms that can block odor’s ability to reach the smell nerve, which sits at the top of the nasal cavity. But, we believe the primary cause, particularly for people with extended or permanent loss of smell function, is that the virus causes an inflammatory reaction inside the nose that can lead to a loss of the olfactory, or smell, neurons.

In some cases, this is permanent, but in other cases, the neurons can regenerate. That’s likely what determines which patients recover. In COVID-19, we believe smell loss is so prevalent because the receptors for COVID-19 that are expressed in human tissue are most commonly expressed in the nasal cavity and in the supporting cells of the olfactory tissue. These supporting cells surround the smell neurons and allow them to survive.

Q: Should people with smell and taste loss in the absence of other symptoms be concerned about COVID-19?
While smell and taste loss can be caused by other conditions, it warrants a conversation with your physician to determine whether you should be tested for COVID-19. We know smell loss is one of the first — and sometimes only — symptoms in up to 25% of people diagnosed with COVID-19. It could be unrelated, but it’s important to seek care, especially if these symptoms are prolonged.

The Vanderbilt Smell and Taste Center can objectively test, evaluate and treat patients, whatever the cause, and can offer interventions that can potentially recover loss that could otherwise be permanent. The clinic can be reached at (615) 322-6180.

Q: What questions about these COVID-19 symptoms still need answering?
We plan to watch the recovery rate for these patients. We encourage people who have prolonged smell and taste dysfunction to be evaluated to help us understand if and when these symptoms resolve. There is also concern that COVID-19 and its ability to enter the olfactory tissue could be a conduit for infection in the brain. I think we’ll learn more about that as we follow these patients over time.[/quote]

There’s no chance of recovery for me. And who knows what else might happen besides the fatigue, loss of stamina, and other possible nerve issue. Excuse me if i’m not crying a fucking river over other peoples issues. My experience in having negative crap, issues, situations, etc is pretty profound and i won’t detail them all.

And yet I revel in the challenge even if I consider myself ALREADY DEAD. You either rise out of your ashes and try to survive or die be that physically, emotionally, spiritually, socially. It isn’t ANY person or spirit’s job to ascend you but yourself. I wouldn’t carry another soul out of their despair unless some being can convince me it will lead to my goal of fighting the creator to face that utter annihilation i so do seek. I live in paradox. I strive … to die but i don’t lie down to be buried. Its about the battle and journey. The saying… Live to die… its all one has. Never cave but crave…

I can’t really express said feeling succintly. It simply is MY Is or I AM. Other peoples battles are their own. You know you… I know me. I can’t ever know you nor can you ever understand me.

Sounds like you’re having a pity party. I hope you enjoy it.

No one is asking you to carry another soul out of their misery, and if that’s really your attitude, then perhaps refrain from answering questions like mine? :slight_smile: :wink:

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Ok snowflake. You’re the one with mental anguish because of a baptism. Honestly, i don’t care if that rips you apart. Help yourself. May that baptism rend and poison you more.

Honestly, baptisms don’t do anything, so there’s really no reason to do this.