- First of all, I have to admit that I am very pleasantly impressed by the superior and intelligent way of organizing this forum and in the context I considered it the most suitable place for to submit to the attention of especially the erudite a number of questions of high interest for the great majority of those who want to approach these paths of evolution both from the perspective of their future development as well as of the consequences of a karmic nature, of those related to the expectations for the life or the following lives, of the loss or only removal for a more or less limited period of the soul, s.a.md.
So this topic would like to be created by those who could answer the specific questions related to the becoming of those who have renounced Christianity (for example) what they lose in relation to what they gain, what they gain and what they lose the other camp, to karma and the extent to which it still exists or not (in relation to actions more or less charged with “darkness”), to the perspective of future lives and to notions related to the soul. I am convinced that many are interested of these aspects all the more since it seems very difficult to find this kind of answers on any other similar forums.So please be my guest to debate your point of view my friend,and…sorry for my bad english.
I have updated your title to clarify what you are asking. People tend to skip over posts with vague titles, and be attracted to respond to titles that summarize the question well.
thx.very much Mulberry.
One more specificaly question?! What meen darkside of a succubus?!
@Nefilim_san When I jettison Christianity, it is not Christ I wish to abandon, it is the context of YHWH and that Christ identifies himself as YHWH. In the OT the methods of YHWH reveal a deplorable lack of justice. And in the modern Christian theologies best exemplified in traditional Roman Catholicism and early Protestantism, God will create some infants who he allows to die without any intention of granting them heaven. Moreover, many of his own children who DO abandon him, though he has the power to bring them back to himself of his own free will, he does not.
And in this he is at least passively a Saturnian character, the devourer of his own Children.
I have come to admire the rebellion of Satan against this kind of injustice and the enlightenment brought to man by Lucifer, who did not count the cost to show us our value and dignity.
However, I am not convinced that simply ending in Satanism is the best path, because there is something beyond both the Righteousness of Christ and the Insurrection of Satan that has written this tragedy into reality- I see this as a narrative emanating from that one beyond being, something beyond YHWH and Satan. And that ONE is the greatest good and there are paths of both light and darkness leading back to that singular good united One beyond thought.
By it the void was made and impregnated, and the source of all myth derived from this original coupling, and all the gods and narratives and angels and demons and men and Fae spring from this original coupling of Purely Actualized unity and Goddess like Passive potential.
It’s very Neoplatonic in the way I see things, and sex is the imitation of the cosmic mystery of one emanating two, creating the multiplicity of the children of the universe.
This is what I have gained- a place for everything and everything in its place. And a love for that nameless One I do not know, that even the demons long for without naming it. And I and the fae alongside them.
I cannot see how those creatures who love the truth, which is all really, can suffer an eternal frustration and hatred of the truth they have engrafted in their hearts. Somehow ignorance will be wiped away at the very end and all will love the truth of the unity of being and of one another’s being. I do believe that in the heart of Satan love will eventually win, partly vindicating him, partly chastising him.
I’d say what they lose really depends on the person leaving Christianity. From what I’ve noticed, this usually seems to be relationships with other people. Admittedly, I got lucky. Most of my family (including myself) renounced Catholicism, but the ones that are still Catholic don’t really seem to care. No one in my family knows I practice magick, however, and I have no plans to tell them lol.
What you gain really depends on what you’re looking for by leaving Christianity. If you just not want to be a Christian anymore, then that’s what you get.
Soul-wise, however, nothing happens. Heaven and Hell aren’t really afterlives, and most people reincarnate anyway.
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When I jettison Christianity, it is not Christ I wish to abandon, it is the context of YHWH and that Christ identifies himself as YHWH. In the OT the methods of YHWH reveal a deplorable lack of justice. And in the modern Christian theologies best exemplified in traditional Roman Catholicism and early Protestantism, God will create some infants who he allows to die without any intention of granting them heaven. Moreover, many of his own children who DO abandon him, though he has the power to bring them back to himself of his own free will, he does not.
And in this he is at least passively a Saturnian character, the devourer of his own Children.
I have come to admire the rebellion of Satan against this kind of injustice and the enlightenment brought to man by Lucifer, who did not count the cost to show us our value and dignity.
However, I am not convinced that simply ending in Satanism is the best path, because there is something beyond both the Righteousness of Christ and the Insurrection of Satan that has written this tragedy into reality- I see this as a narrative emanating from that one beyond being, something beyond YHWH and Satan. And that ONE is the greatest good and there are paths of both light and darkness leading back to that singular good united One beyond thought.
By it the void was made and impregnated, and the source of all myth derived from this original coupling, and all the gods and narratives and angels and demons and men and Fae spring from this original coupling of Purely Actualized unity and Goddess like Passive potential.
It’s very Neoplatonic in the way I see things, and sex is the imitation of the cosmic mystery of one emanating two, creating the multiplicity of the children of the universe.
This is what I have gained- a place for everything and everything in its place. And a love for that nameless One I do not know, that even the demons long for without naming it. And I and the fae alongside them.
[/quote]very deep and interesting what you say, I can’t pretend that I understood you in everything, but it doesn’t seem like a text to understand for the first time
Btw Prophet,from my side i think in terms like Post_Lux_tenebrae who sead here up that he dont abandon Christ but the context…when i chose lefthandpath i try to find out if i can be onest and remane outside of the biblic batle, thinking that …in the and who am i to judge the titans?! Because from my side loks like npo one make any harm directly against me and to chose a side or other looks like i make galerie without any real reason
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I do reject the Christian view of sin and atonement because I cannot find a law against us simply for being born into a world we could not choose. There is suffering and sorrow and pain and beauty and love and it is part of a grand story imitated at cosmic levels and local levels. The grand ending will be the unveiling of all the complexity into a seamless whole in which we all find our particular meaning, individually and universally.
Are you asking if you can still be LHP without taking a side? The answer is yes. You don’t have to be beholden to demons or Yehovah.
Truth be told, the Bible is not a text to be taken at face value. It’s been edited many times over the years, and at best, should be looked at from a metaphorical lens.
Totaly agree.I wish to mention one more time that i remane novice ,a diletant with good intention so…dont take my comment to much in serious ok? i am so little yet
Realy important for me this answer, thx.very much.You know?!..its not about the bible,i saw there that God could be very very cruel,and i think that somethink is wrong,cant be this real.Any way, for me is important the ideea of God,i live with this ideea, i pray (not to much in church but my own)to him and time ago i evan thought that i feel his help.So…from my side i dont wish to feel like a traitor cose i am not.This is why i am greatfoull that you make this coment
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