I wanted to ask some questions regarding magick and hear other peoples thoughts this. My experience so far has been mainly with Draconian magick. The Dragon appears to be the main driving force in my development with the exception that by working with the current other influences naturally come into play as well. One thing that has recently caught my attention is Vampiric symbolism and magick. Working with the current of the Dragon seems to come naturally, but this is still my path that Iām walkingā¦ The Dragon force works as a catalyst for my personal development and I donāt want it to completely define my spiritual path. I am curious about implementing Vampiric magick into my daily practice. I wonder if I can integrate these two currents so to speak, and if so how would it look? They appear to be different fundamentally on the surface but they both serve a similar purpose of self mastery. Iām thinking of balancing the fiery expansive force of the Dragon with the seemingly inverted force of the Vampire. Iād like to hear some feedback and if anyone has any experience with either of these forces.
We donāt have a Draconian category but we do have one for vampirism so I have moved the topic there.
Not sure - Draconian doesnāt have much in the way of energy working, and vampirism is basically a specific application of energy working. Thereās entities that act vampirically ā¦ try the search for combinations of ādemonsā and āvampirismā and the like and you will probably get a list of those that help people with this.
When you say Draconian, Iām going to assume you mean the type of practice done by Asenath Mason and Temple of Ascending Flame. Iāve worked with Asenath Masonās book Qliphothic Invocations and Evocations, initiating through the Qlipha and I currently practice vampirism, but I didnāt do both at the same time.
I donāt see a problem with doing both at once, unless you utilise a different pantheon of entities for your vampiric practice, that might change the dynamic, but the worst thing that could happen is that you get energetically overwhelmed. I donāt work with any entities for my vampirism practice.
At the moment, I practice a different kind of Draconian magic, ie. Michael Kellyās Apophis curriculum, which is influenced by Kellyās time as head of the Order of Leviathan in the Temple of Set. This has nothing to do with the Qliphoth.
If you donāt use any entities in your vampirism, then the only limitation is the amount of time you can devote to each practice.
I remember when I first started working with the visualizations and exercises in the Draconian Ritual Book the overwhelming heat and energy I felt in my chest. This was followed by an inflated ego, strange thoughts, overly increased pattern recognition to the point where I wondered if I was going mad.
I was also in active addiction at that time so Iām sure that played a role in my early experience. Iām clean but still very early in recovery and right now I have resumed the energy working exercises in the book now that Iām at baseline. I decided to do this because of my low persistent low energy state.
This is not unusual, its just my baseline is what others would consider depressed. Iām experiencing this confusion and frustration currently. The meditations go well, but what follows inconsistent and confusing.
Currently the pressure isnāt in my chest, its right between my eyebrows. Itās impossible to ignore, it doesnāt even feel like a normal headache. It feels like this unnatural pressure that Iāve never felt before.
Thereās also doubt that Iām just over interpreting it but the patterns are pretty damn clear. When I lay down and close my eyes I hear these thoughts that appear to be like audible, as if I am hearing them in my ear. Itās difficult to discern at first, I have to keep asking what is it Iām being told. After a while I can discern the message. Just now it happened, like a couple minutes ago when I was laying down. I feel stressed and confused.
(I moved your post in together with the same discussion for this you already started. Please try to keep posts of the same subject together so people donāt lose the thread.)
Sound like you pulled too much energy into your middle Dan Tian. That would cause heat sensations and psychic effects. Itās best to stop and heal when this happens. You are being taught energy techniques by people with no safety or understanding of what yo are actually doing. You can really hurt yourself if you are not careful. The qi body is not invincible and you can damage it like you can any organ.
I donāt know this book, but given you already had issues with it, I think itās ill advised. Why not get some qigong basics under your belt and then come back to it. You should be drawing to Lower Dan Tian not middle, you need to know how to ground and clear excess qi (like a pressure valve on a cooker), and you also want to cleanse and banish parasites attracted to all this free energy, that will mess with you and derail your efforts.
This is the gateway to your Upper Dan Tian - so now you have this acivating and should also be getting more psychic experiences from this.
No, when youāre right, youāre right and you know it. Trust your gut, this seems a mix of great work developing your qi, but a little too much and unbalanced in places.
I recommend you next learn how to run the microcosmic orbit - also called the lesser heavenly circuit and similar, which will help you balance this energy safely across all your meridians and between yin and yang energies.
Good walk-thoughts for doing this are this youtube by Benebell Wen,
and the instructions in the book Dreamgates by Robert Moss - his is rather excellent when you donāt know all t he acupuncture points and explains it very well.
You might lookup Thomas Karlsson , or write directly to Ordo Dragon Rouge (Order of the Red Dragon).There are three degrees and itās a difficult but worthwhile order.
Ho Drakon Ho Magas.
Another option is to do a Ritual for Hire with EA Koetting, which would be highly beneficial for you.
Asrnatj Mason has quite a few writings and her own order, dealing mainly with Qlipppthoc Work. Lilith, the second owner of the eleven sphere tree, and Paimon and Sorath on the sixth sphere would help with vampiric work.
