Hello!
I have a question. I heard that if you initiate into and get stuck in Qlippoth and die a physical death, your soul gets destroyed. Is this true ?
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@Dark_Harvest I’ve only heard this from a single youtuber. So im guessing it his upg on the matter as I’ve not seen anything from other sources on the Qliphoth bringing up this matter.
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Your soul can’t get destroyed, not by a spirit, not by a person and not by the Qliphoth. Part of your consciousness may get trapped “there” (towards the themes and things which the sphere represents) and that just means the same theme would keep recurring in your life (this one or future ones) until you learned the lesson / gained the experience you were supposed to from that sphere and energy. Personally though I don’t think you can get “Stuck”, because it’s a long-term pursuit and there’s a lot of progress made and work done that may not feel linear at times.
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Mind you I always say take what I say with a grain of salt as it is my personal gnosis. However that being said, in my current understanding (which is limited but very thorough and has been quiet invested in the Qliphoth, Jewish Mysticism, the Qliphothic spheres and their relationship to the planets the chakras and the nervous system) Yes I believe this is true.
But not in the way you think
Not in the way most understand it.
Think of your nervous system as a doorway to vibrational existence. Your own personal “tree of life” so to speak. This is where we all inevitably go. This is the great reality after death. Some vibrations are higher, some are lower. But when we leave this body it will be like our spirit is taking off a fleshy, membrane like “Glove” so to speak and you will cease to use the tools that were once so familiar to you in this life (ie: touch, smell, taste, hearing, eyesight).
Vibration and frequency is a quick and eminent reality you will come to know encompasses all that you are.
Now this is where the Qliphoth comes in. It is the “shells” around creation, the husks on the tree of life left over after creation, and each sphere is it’s own realm individually and respectively with a ruling emotion, demon and concept. The Qliphoth is very low vibrational frequency. When you shine light on your shadow self, the pieces of yourself you don’t want to admit about yourself, your traumas, your fears ECT ECT you catch a glimpse of the doorway into one of these spheres.
The Qliphothic energy is the energy we create around ourselves to protect us, whether it be over indulgence to validate a sense of wellbeing, or withdrawal and fear due to PTSD traumas or hurt. That is why it is full of demons.
When you receive trauma, your store it in your nervous system as a frequency of remembrance, the lower the vibration the more that sphere aligns within the sphere of that Qliphoth and the stronger it is the stronger the Qliphoth will manifest in the “real”. The more likely it is the Qliphothic power will cross the veil into this one.
(There’s more to it than just this to but bear with me this is an in depth summary)
When people throughout life form shells around their subconscious due to trauma they are inadvertently and unknowingly accessing and creating doorways to the Qliphoth. We as black magicians just become “AWARE” of this. But it gives us one keen advantage.
When you die, and you take off this glove of flesh as you withdraw from your nervous system, processing all its life information, the Qliphothic spheres/shells act as emotional anchors of attachment that (although sometimes they empowered you) will need to be processed in order to step fully into aether.
I’m going to have to continuously work with, integrate and visit Gaburah for example because I have PTSD because I was a Marine. I’ve had brothers missing they’re legs die in my arms, I’ve seen people shot, blown to pieces from IEDs, mortars, and airstrikes or turned to ash or persecuted violently with it all being justified through religion or whatever else people want to use to excuse it.
I cannot rationalize the cruelty, the hate the understanding of it. The evil depths humans can exist in, I can’t understand why they do what they do, how people can truly commit such unforgivable, horrid, disgusting acts against not just soldiers, but civilians, woman, children, the less fortune. The list goes on and all for what? for warlords, gangs, tyrants or just because they’ve had a bad day and carry a gun? I have lost a lot of empathy and I have destroyed my psyche dwelling on past mistakes, mabye the Humvee should have turned left, mabye if I had carried his half dying corps a little faster. Maybe if I had just watched a little harder for the gun in his hand.
In doing so my nervous system has created A LOT of vigilance and fear based thinking. PTSD as a means to keep me safe. And it’s saved me from being shot because I’m hyper vigilant and it ultimately protects me but it also creates demons within me that don’t serve me when it isn’t a necessary force.
The energy of Mars, the God of war, or the Sphere of Geburah has formed a strong protective shell around my spirit inadvertently that I must break if I’m ever to see myself and recognize the divinity in the enemies and evil people I’ve fought. I need to continuously visit Geburah and integrate it to heal it, for if I die before I’m able to forgive them ill have to do it after death before I can move on.
Now this isn’t to say I’ll be stuck there, it just means you handle each sphere at your own pace and whatever you don’t get done in life will make your passing harder untill your able to see yourself or see the divine in everyone (yes everyone) around you and forgive.
This is why there’s a “hell” I believe because it’s what we make of it, it’s the spheres of the Qliphoth we still need to integrate, to understand, and until we do, it will anchor us.
(Again this is my personal gnosis but I am studied in the occult, hermeticism, the kabbalah, Jewish Mysticism and anthropology) You just have to see the big picture, step back and recognize the truth that everyone in all these different cultures were talking about, then you can really access the Qliphoth on the subconscious level, through meditation, or even sleep, lucid dreaming and astral projection.
And sometimes it seems more real than even here. Than reality itself.
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@SacredMoth I suppose thats why it carries over into other incarnations if you cant deal with it in the current time frame. So i get where you coming 
but i don’t think of it as “hell” just further lessons you will continue to learn.
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I was scared to go into Qlippoth because I didn’t want to have my soul destroyed. It was a guy on youtube who said this.
@Dark_Harvest It’s very individual depending on what each person believes. That’s their upg but someone elses might be different. Like a few others have stated it can differ depending on many factors such as approach, belief system ect…
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The Qlippoth is basically shadow work, you’re developing your own inner self, so it’s like saying “if I die in the therapists office will my soul be destroyed?”.
So ALL people ho do any kind of deep, painful introspection into thier dark side are supposed to get complete soul dissolution when they die, now? That’s insANE.
No, this is not a thing. It doesn’t even make any sense. (to me)
Think about it? What is a soul, what is death, what is “initiating”, and what is the qlippoth?
Unless you know what you think about these things, you cannot answer this question.
So lets break it down.
- If a soul is an immortal spirit incarnate into one or more layers of bodies, and
- death is when one of those bodies is shed,
- “initiate” means “learn how it works”
- the qlipphoth is the negative aspects of reality
Why would learning about the dark side of human reality cause you the spirit to leave ALL your layers of vessels - BUT, only after you lose the physical one some time… later?
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