Usually demons who I contact reveal their presence vividly, I’m able to feel them easily. It was with Satan like this too for a long time, but currently something went wrong.
Whenever I try to summon/contact him, I barely feel his presence at all. It’s really vague, not like with other demons whose presence is bright. It’s also hard to talk to him - it feels like I can’t hear him or concentrate on him at all.
Situation’s been like this for a couple of months already.
I somehow crave that connection because I suspect Satan to be my patron, so I tried to ask other demons about the situation.
Usually they say to “seek him within yourself”, yet I’m confused what exactly they mean by that and how to do it.
I personally believe Satan is just a title for a spirits with a given philosophy that is contrary to what the church wants you to think, and someone random steps in to fill the role when evoked. So if you are a free thinker, you’re already a satan. Perhaps that’s what they mean and you’re talking at cross-purposes.
Maybe try picking a satan strongly associated with the label like Iblis and see what you get?
People who claims to have experienced Satan says different contradictive things and what Satan liked and disliked was always was the person liked or disliked. This is why I don’t think he is an entity. He is a symbolic projection of the ego and why what Satan symbolizes is subjective. This is also why Satanism would fall apart if it was not a religion because if a symbol have different meanings then it cannot gather people.
The occult is not always shared with the public, people who reach a certain level hold the power in their own hands, why don’t you say it yourself and try your own experience as soon as you tell people?
Satan is 4 beings, 2 of them are jinn created from high-grade fire.
you can pray to them you can do pathway work with them you can wake them up with ritual magic or other prayers others always suit you as long as you haven’t had your own experience.
Remember that experiences are always personal, the entity that treats me with a smile may attack you or destroy your life. Experiences always vary from person to person.
I talk about values. It seems that people who claims to work with Satan project their own values onto Satan. Satan may be an entity but there is not enough evidence. People disagree to much about who and what Satan is. Personal experiences is not evidence because again people have different experiences and dreams and delusions can also create those kinds of experiences because of the power of subconsciosness.
You can never prove the existence of magic by scientific means, you can never prove the authenticity of your personal experiences, the evidence is based on specific sources.
usually the entity does not come to you and tell you about the magic found in a book, there is no proof of what it has given you.
I don’t talk about magick. I talk about entities. Because of the power of the subconsciosness and the collective unconsciousness we must be aware that these can give same experiences as the spiritual.
Hi, so i personally belive Satan is Satan, while the title Satan exist Samael, Lucifer, Asmodeus etc… isn’t the same with Satan the deity.
Now, he is one of my patrons and i think i have only felt his true presence, i mean literally his full presence maybe only 3 times, every other time while he do appiered or manifested he wasn’t fully manifested and its 100% normal, actually in my experiences most of the time we work with more like the deities fragment or just not fully manifested as them comming to our space fully manifested is more rare.
But if you feel something is off i would try to talk to him about, even if you don’t feel his presence try to pull some tarot cards or try out different methods of trying to call him in.
