we are in no contact since last 3 months, there is no way for me to reach her.
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So she’s made a decision that you’re no good for her based on practical considerations that you cannot be a good long term partner, but some questions are unknown and she’s erring on the side of caution. Head over heart.
The best way to persuade her then is to address her concerns, supply answers to these questions and demonstrate why you can practically meet her needs.
If you try to mask that, and she was right, she’ll just find out later and you will have a nasty situation on your hands. You also need to be very sure that you’re ok meeting what she wants, and you might not even have all the info on what that is yet - what if she hasn’t told you something that is a deal breaker for you?
As I said above, there’s also a risk that she’s sensing spells done against her free will as attacks, and attempting mind control is also a banefull attack that could have the same effect as the red candle.
I pulled you a card and got “Glamour”… (Quereia deck)
So… something is very much not as it seems here. One or the other of you is not truthful about what you’re putting on the table. It’s probably her. It’s possible that this is causing insecurity as well that you would reject her if you found out. But it could also be referring to the mind control idea as “glamour” - it’s fake, for you and her, and then you have to maintain that fake for ever.
As this is not for temporary thrills, I’d say: “Never start a relationship with a kidnapping”. If you only want a short term or casual relationship it’s not such a problem.
Oh, final thought: if you’re looking for long term consider that she will eventually find out as she gets to know you, and then that will make her question everything. If he finds out that you did a healing, to reassure her given her worry is probably from past bad experiences, that’s going to go across as forgivable, but a mind control spell brings trust into question and you don’t want that hanging over your head in a long term relationship.
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this is not true, the lovers card and the heirophant card kept popping every now and then, and when we asked to the question as to why she broke up all the cards suggested that she was unecesessarily taking pressure for something that even I am not aware about, see the thing is if she never saw me as a potential partner, why would she introduce me to her family and make so many plans, I was literally with her family for the whole day on christmas.
I swear if this was the situation, I myself would never try to have her back in my life again, I wish I could show you the messages that she had sent me prior to the breakup.
I swear there is nothing that would make me reject her, I have literally even told her in the beginning of the relationship that if she ever feels like she is not happy in the relationship and wants to see someone else, I would respect that decision of hers.
I understand eveything that you have said above and if binding was ever my intention, I would have gone through the route of using binding spells which uses runes, blood magick etc, my intentions are pure and all I want her to see is how much she means to me and just remove this stupid pressure of the unknown from her mind and see things for wha they are…
Well this is the material point -
- Glamour - hidden information - there’s something you don’t know, and you’re reaching for solutions for a problem you have not clearly defined.
- “Unnecessary” according to WHO? Not her, obviously. This is a judgement from the tarot reader and that’s very dodgy.
There’s no reason any of these solutions will work when you don’t know why they are the solutions. You already know that emotional control workings backfire in a big way, there’s a non-zero risk that mind control spells will do the same for the same reasons, which you also don’t know.
Honestly, I’m a stranger and I don’t believe you - not enough data - YOU DON’T KNOW, that’s the problem.
I mentioned helping her and healing a couple of times and you didn’t even grace that with a response - do you actually care that she could be reacting like this due to past pain? ONE tarot reader’s UPG (unverified personal gnosis) told you what you wanted to hear, it could be completely that person’s imagination, but you’re not going to find a way to verify if it’s correct or consider the more obvious psychological options?
Well, isn’t this factually the case based on your own descriptions above?. Dude she BLOCKED YOU - that’s a decision point right there that says “nope, stay out of my life”.
Are they though? You’re trying to usurp her free will, but if you loved her wouldn’t you want to support her through her issues instead of try to control her to get your outcome asap?
As I explained Love spells and mind control and bindings are BANEFUL workings, whatever “pure” means i don’t know - pure lust? That’s Ok, I don’t judge but don’t lie to yourself that this isn’t selfish and not for your benefit - and you want her to just disregard her fears that it’s not for her benefit?
It doesn’t matter if you feel that butter wouldn’t melt in your mouth - SHE has questions and SHE FEELS more than uncertain. You don’t block people for no reason.
Did you? You didn’t even respond to half of it so it doesn’t show 
- if I feel unheard here, then I’m now wondering if that’s her issue too - perhaps she tried to talk it out with you, but like with the tarot reader, you don’t listen you hear what you want to hear.
I suspect the first is clear and that’s why she blocked - too intense and her feeling don’t match. They might have before but things change in light of new information. Your cursing her to “love” you counts as new information, if at the subconscious level, and isn’t great, really.
So, I get you’re frustrated but her fears aren’t going to be “stupid”, and again you don’t know what they are to say that - and if you dismiss her worries like that, then she’s going to feel you’re not safe or supportive - not really bf material. Hopefully you didn’t talk to her like that… maybe you just came across as a bit needy and that’s a turnoff for most people, but then it’s an easier fix as you just have to chill out for a bit give her space to process and reconnect more calmly later.
Ignoring data is the same has having it hidden from you - you end up hiding it from yourself. But you need to understand better, maybe you already got it and you could review old conversations to look for it.
There’s an entity that can help with this: Foras.
In the Goetia Pathworking by Corwin Hargrove there’s complete instructions to contact Foras, and he has the following skills:
Try both:
Fascinate the jaded. If somebody has become bored by you or feels you are no longer as exciting or interesting as you once were, this power can give you an air of mysterious excitement that will make you fascinating. A friend, lover, or even a business partner, will once again be intrigued and attracted to your presence and your thoughts.
Understand a loved one. If you are serious about a relationship, it helps to understand the other person’s deeper needs. This power works by making the other person more expressive while helping you to perceive the true needs expressed behind anything that is spoken. It can be used at any time but is useful in the early stages of a relationship when you are deciding if you want to meet those needs, and also after years have passed, when needs have changed. Many relationships fail because people don’t check up on changing needs and if you want a relationship to survive, this perception can help.
Hargrove, Corwin. Goetia Pathworking: Magickal Results from The 72 Demons (Magick of Darkness and Light) (p. 100). Kindle Edition.
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She never showed any concerns, she always said that the relationship is something that she never expected that a guy could treat her so good because she has always had bitter relationships in the past, not even once she said anything, if she would have said something, I would have made sure that it is being worked on right away.
Apologies, I know I sound like a very needy and pushy person in the above replies, what you said above makes a lot of sense, you have given me alot to think on and improve on, feels like a slap but I guess this reality check was needed to see things the way they are, you are right I am absolutely selfish to use love spells to have her back in my life, you are so so right, I guess I should just leave her alone and work on myself and become a better person and follow the right path to things and life, your replies made me realize a lot of things but yes there is something that I wont agree about the fact that I would not listen to her, I have always been a supporting partner and have always listened to everything she had said and tried to become a better person.
Is there any chance I can undo what I did with the spells and leave her alone?
Yep, you just made me realize what a horrible human being I am to do what I just did.
Ok, but she told you about these past bad experiences. She has “unnecessary pressure”.
If we take all that at face value, I’m going with the idea that the spirits vouch for you, so her being cut up over her past doesn’t need to get in the way, but it is because she doesn’t know you well enough, and she’s gotten freaked out by the intensity of this bit:
If that’s true she’s running scared, and it’s emotional and very defensive, implying maybe things were worse than she lets on and she has some shame around it - which is a debilitating emotion and explains the reaction to the love spell: her defenses are on super high alert.
I’d still work with Foras on the understanding part to help get insight on things she probably doesn’t want to talk about, and see if you want to take on someone who’s basically a tad broken in the relationship department. And add a huge dollop of emotional healing, and patience. I thin she may want to reconnect after she’s had some time and then it’s like coaxing a feral cat out of hiding, eventually if she talks about what was so bad she might like to go to couples therapy with you.
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Sister, you have made me realize alot of things tonight, and one of things is that I dont deserve her, like I asked you, can I do something to leave her alone? can I undo spells, she deserves a good guy. not someone as broken as I am, like you said, If I really loved her, I would leave her the fuck alone, and that is what I want to do, I just want her to forget this terrible relationship she had with me, I want her to feel all the happiness in this world and I wish her to find a kind, just like she deserves and it aint me, can you please guide me with the next course of action, I just wish to do something good for her, just this one last time, because I genuinely love her.
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Ahm, yes there’s things you can do on both fronts.
For her healing I’d call on a team that includes Leraje (for mental strength) and Raphael (for emotional healing) or if not Raphael then Ebuhuel from the book Angels of Omnipotence.
For dissolving your attachment painlessly I have a working I wrote up for that here, which is a homegrown thing I developed when I was in pain from wanting a relationship that wasn’t right:
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thank you, i cannot thank you enough, i just messed up, i needed this reality check, i absolutely dont deserve someone as amazing as her, i will do everything in my power to help her heal and find a nice guy and also peace in her life, she deserves the best!
I would want to live with the pain actually, if I deserved painless things in life, I wouldnt do what I did, so I wish to live with pain and torture myself, but, thanks anyways.
Well on a wider level, that kind of messes us all up a bit… for one it will be in the way of you raising your kundalini to become spiritually more evolved, but as all we humans are connected through the common unconscious, your pain is felt at a low level by us all. The more people in pain there are operating from a survival level, the harder it is for all of us to raise ourselves up.
And it doesn’t really achieve anything useful although it does make you feel better in a sideways sort of way. You can still regret the past and know you won’t repeat it without hanging on to it: it becomes your personal history and part of who you are, but it is handled stoically rather than emotionally.
So while it definitely feels noble, if you can find a way to even just draw a line under it, chalk it up to experience and go forward with your evolution, that would be better for you and everyone around you 
I’d say give it time and let it be ok and don’t beat yourself up as the feelings fade, they’re supposed to do that.
makes sense, but it is all my bad karma of all past life times accumulated, and I think its for a reason, to make me suffer, to make me go through life without love, since I was a child I never received any love or affection, when this relationship finally happened I felt on top of the world and the happiest human being, wont lie, but deep down did not know that I was just on borrowed karma for whatever reason like living on a ventilator, when the ventilator shut off my soul was fighting for whatever it could do to save itself, hence the route to spell but when I read your comments, I finally realized the depth of things, and the reason I was born in this lifetime to feel all the pain and sufferings in life, and this relattionship was just a taunt to me on how this life is without love, so I deserve it, i deserve to be punished here and I am open to it to repent and what not. @Mulberry
all I wish is to help her propel forward, help her in any way possible, even if it means losing my self in the process, I just wish to do this last thing, that would give me satisfaction, atleast it would help me know that I did one thing right in my lifetime, I just wish to be that soul that knows it did everything possible in life to make someone happy, to help someone, even if it meant that they would lose themselves in the process, maybe this was the reason that I was born again. @Mulberry please guide me!
Well, I have a different view of “karma”, that I think is more in line with it’s intended exposition of the buildup of energy we get within ourselves as we continue to gain experiences and form relationships as spirits.
“Karma as punishment” is, I feel, a lie: because it’s not a helpful, intelligent or even a fair situation, and I think that’s a great stick to either beat people with, or as an excuse to abuse others, but the universe is actually either more mature than that, or maybe just more logical. I think it’s not punishment at all, it’s not even a consequence - it’s not a judgement, but just a result. A very emotionally attached result, but the emotions are not the same thing as the truth of it.
Results can be resolved, though understanding and healing. Sounds a bit fluffy I know, but being human is really hard, and you’ve had it harder than most. Nobody sets out to create bad energetics, they are in response to something thrown at you, we all end up in circles within circles of perpetuating trauma, and sometimes trying to fix it makes even more in other ways with other relationships and so it goes around and around.
The best way to stop that is to break each vicious circle one by one, which means healing your energy of it, not keeping it going so it causes more misery in the next life. Starting with the big ones.
As someone who’s made colossal mistakes I’d love to redo, I totally sympathise, I don’t forgive myself either - yet - it’s much harder to do that BECAUSE you’re a good person and because you care. But you have to eventually, there’s nowhere else for that work to go and it’s no good to just stasgnate for - eons? How long will you beat yourself up and keep making it worse and worse? … But again, every time someone overcomes these burdens, they also make it easier for others to overcome theirs through resonance with the human species. It’s not selfish to learn and move on, it’s part of how the universe works.
I’m sorry that happened to you and I also sympathise having been in a similar situation. But this woman is not your parents and could love you if she understood better why you can’t act in the ways she might expect. So I was raised by a sadistic narcissist who threw my dad out when I was young: and If you’re anything like me, showing affection is very unfamiliar and uncomfortable, approaching people or asking for anything is scary, I associate it with being punished for asking, while being alone got associated with comfort and not being abused, so it’s easier to fight and push people away in favour of quiet sanctuary.
So I kind of have an answer for that, as while intellectually I have these views about how I should let those energetic blocks go if I want to raise my kundalini, which I do, I can’t approach if from a therapeutic standpoint as I hang on to my coping mechanisms. What I can do, it approach it from an pure energy-working standpoint, and use qigong to remove blocks over time using the qi body, not the emotional body. In that case, there’s no feeling the emotions, you can treat them as impurities and pockets of stagnant qi in your system that do not serve you, and gently dissolve them using a different perspective.
On doing that, as the process continues you find that when you do poke at the emotions using your emotional body, they are less and less intense. The memory and learning remains, and you are a more evolved spirit for the experience, but it no longer holds you into harmful patterns.
Well you already did that 
Two things not to forget:
a) If this was someone else you’d forgive them, so why not you? I know why: it’s a philosophical question for later really.
b) to do this, someone else has to agree to be there to hurt you, and that fucks them up a bit too. Now THEY are also going to be dealing with “karma” later as well
So it’s all around comfier, but not useful to be punishing yourself, and we all would like you to please stop, especially whatsherface, because she wishes that went differently too.
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I think I read all your replies more than 20+ times in the past hour, all I could think or relate was that I must have made a pact or I must choose to live a life full of pain and sorrows, this is why I took birth, I should go through this pain because of my past karma, good or bad, if it was good, I wouldnt have been writing this reply but I am writing this for a reason, mostly because I deserve this pain, all the sufferings in my life, my dad kicked me, my mom and my brother out of the house when I was 16, that was for a reason right? for the first time I was so happy in my life was when my ex came in life, I swear those 5 months were the happiest I ever was and I ever will be, it was all borrowed karma, I wish I could borrow more to be happy for one last time but I also understand there is a reason for everything, it was just life teasing me by giving me a taste of it for once so that I could crave for it all my life to just know how it feels to be close to love but I accept it, and I all I wish is to go through pain and sufferings so I can liberate through all this, thank you so much @Mulberry for being the real OG, if you wouldnt have slapped me today, it would have taken me long and long to realise that I was here just to see the sufferings in my life and not the happy part of it maybe if any other life time, if we ever cross paths, I hope we recognise each other and we can have the same convo maybe not from the suffering part of life but the blessings, I wish nothing but the best to you, may your life be full of happines, wealth, joy and most importantly love, because what I have realised is that having love in your life helps you alot, like alot!
Thank your for the well wishes. I think you’re well on your way and maybe doing better than me, you have the desire for love and relationships and I gave up trying when I was 8 lol
I resonate with your situation, and through resonance we had a good conversation and I learned some things too by being made to think things through! So thank YOU as well
After that, we’re nothing if not adaptable, our constant is change, and things won’t always be this way, even if you wanted them to be. And that’s ok too.
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Hehe, maybe in other human beings case but I am sure, more than 100 % sure that they won’t change for me, I must have done something really really bad to someone in my last life and hence the reason why I crave to have love in my life, I must have taken someones really bad wishes upon me by doing something wrong.
You can look into that, through past life regression techniques with the help of a hypnotist or using trance state shamanic journeying by yourself. That can be hard, as if you had really bad trauma, reliving it can also be traumatizing in itself, but it does let you face it head on at least.