As I’ve been dabbling in and out of many different traditions and pathworkings over the last year or so, I’ve decided it’s time to truly dedicate myself to spiritual ascent. I’ve come across a few different paths that I’d like to walk, in varying degrees of intensity.
I find myself drawn to the Luciferian/Draconian current of the Temple of Ascending Flame, though it seems like post-initiation, I am free to do as I choose. The plan is to go through the introductory materials and take initiation into the current. I would be doing this to take on Lucifer and the Great Dragon as ‘patron deities’ of my power and ascent. Beyond this, I want to take on a structured pathworking, specifically the O.A.A. curriculum (especially since it involves a Tree of Life/Death pathworking down the line, fucking awesome). On the side, I’d like to continue dabbling in things like Paganism, Hoodoo, Shamanism, Hinduism, and other odds and ends stuff as a hobby.
My question is equal parts for members of either current:
Is there anything in the above explanation that is contradictory? Or is there nothing stopping me from executing this plan? I don’t see why anything would prevent me from anything else, but I’m quite paranoid about doing something that would preclude other pursuits. (Three cheers for Freedom and all that).
Hello brother I am an initiate of the Temple Of Ascending Flame. I will tell you this if you walk the Path of the Dragon it takes dedication to the work. The i tri course can be brutal for most people, it was to an extent for me but not as much as others just made me tired at times of intensity. It deals a lot with kundalini and such and each week of the intro course you work with a different draconian god. They are amazing. As I see it I don’t see a problem with the IS A as i too want to locate and work these practices. My advice as a friend would be take on one at a time. Both at the same time could prove detrimental in not only your health but in your reports to the temple. The intro course is 11 weeks long and you have to turn in a final report at least in a years year’s time from the time you accepted the course. I powerhoused the weeks back to back but i have quite a bit of magickal experience and a deadly personal drive. If it is the same for you by all means go for it lol. If you have any questions feel free to ask me here.
Hahaha I can’t speak for all but I’m a meat eater lol. I’m sure there are some vegetarians somewhere in the temple but neither is promoted or restricted.
Haha well as far as level goes they really don’t have a system however during initiation ceremony we are all initiated into the draconian current as priests or priestesses of the ascending flame. And well I have quite a few stories stemming from the introductory course and other personal experiences but none as memorable as the rite of possession I underwent in the course. You perform a ritual and at the end there is a meditation. That meditation allows you to become temporarily possessed by Lucifer. That was a hell of an experience and I’m glad i did it. I have been itching for another possession ever since but only with another entity that I build a relationship with.
Maybe, I think there are levels of seriousness based on a personz amount and depth of knowledge. Some peopld just happen to just start out in a “bigger kiddid pool” than others.
It really depends on your work ethic to determine the level of seriousness because it is a lot of work. And I am sure there are those who make a mockery of it but the rituals work and aids your ascent. So for that it is good. On the site it explains it better. It’s not an order based on rank rather a temple based on ascent and aimed at awakening the draconian current around the world.
Yea that would be accurate. But you are not limited to that material which makes it nice I can still work with the Gatekeepers and other things. I chose to stay with the temple and do their inner work. You can opt not to. I just have a really deep connection with this current and the gods of the Path. But as I said I am free to work with any entity still.
Agreed. I dont mind groups (sometimes), but I have a real thing about doing my own thing, as it allows me to commune with any spirit and for creativity and other things to more naturally flow. I was possessed by a Draconian (not the same as reptillian space aliens) entity once where I found myself speaking in a very strange language…kinda guttural, yet smoothly flowing speech. Didnt sound like any human language Ive heard. It seemed curious about being in my body and me, and interestingly was speaking to another one in front of it. But thrse Draconians were much different to any one has ever heard about anywhere.
Nice sounds like you may have tapped into another version of the current, which really is the beauty of it. I used to think at one time people would blow smoke out their assets with the “O I found a new entity” claim, but nevertheless it does actually happens. But yea man that experience sounds interesting in itself. And yea normally I’m not one for groups either but as the temple is based in Poland and I’m in PA, they dont really have many formal meetings. When you do the projects tho, they have you link yourselves to the temple through visualization that way you can obtain not only the harnessed power but add to it this empowering yourself and the current which has been very beneficial for me.at least.
Hello brother! Thanks for the response, that answered my questions very well.
I’m not really very experienced, I’ve only begun to study less than a year ago, so it sounds like that sort of thing would be a bit difficult for me, especially juggling university work.
What do you mean by brutal? Like in the way of internal distress or is it just energetically exhausting? I really don’t have a great sense of what such an intense and dark pathworking would be like! It sounds fucking amazing and thrilling though.
I suppose I’m just being indecisive on which specific direction I want my first serious work to go in.
IMO, it’s completely natural to want to know as much as possible first!!
This stuff’s real, it’s not like joining a book club where you can drop out and change your plans whenever it suits you, if you get caught up in the current of something it often has to run quite a ways before you’re able (or willing) to move on.
Hello brother! Thanks for the response, that answered my questions very well.
I’m not really very experienced, I’ve only begun to study less than a year ago, so it sounds like that sort of thing would be a bit difficult for me, especially juggling university work.
What do you mean by brutal? Like in the way of internal distress or is it just energetically exhausting? I really don’t have a great sense of what such an intense and dark pathworking would be like! It sounds fucking amazing and thrilling though.
I suppose I’m just being indecisive on which specific direction I want my first serious work to go in.[/quote]
First and foremost, I’m not an initiate but I’m familiar with their published work.
Before you start messing with kundalini or doing something potentially dangerous you should consider some of the risks.
Ask yourself, Am I willing to loose everything for the t̶r̶u̶t̶h̶ ̶?
Qliphoth stuff can be kind of tricky because people seem to overlook the whole devour and destroy part. They’re usually in it for the potential gain that goes along with the system/subsystems. In order to experience gain you have to experience loss, death and dissolution. This can throw a wrench in your plans if you’ve got any.
Draconian means harsh or cruel, right? Well Kundalini can be a cruel bitch if she’s not treated with respect and allowed to do her own thing. I know this first hand.
So Kundalini can’t be controlled and if you’re in it for pleasure or ecstasy you’re not going to benefit from it because you’ll hit a wall sooner or later with that mindset. It exists beyond pleasure and pain, good and evil and so on. Duality is a motherfucker so keep that in mind before you fall off the wagon. Balance is key.
My suggestion is to learn the ins and outs on how to properly meditate and work with you’re chakras correctly. You’re not going to find this in most LHp material because those sources don’t train you on how to let go of blocks and deal with your “monkey mind” properly.
All Qlippothic Work is is the empowerment of the Shadow Self with Light Energy to the extreme. One doesnt need to go this route via a JEWISH system if one realizes this. Knowing this…if you want to go beyond the bounds of traditional idea of Qlippoth… then what you do is change the Foundational (Unconscious Mind) informational content and empower it.
Now the tricky part is empowering it. What else is tricky is knowing thyself…but one can forcefully bypass this, but at a gamble of disrupting other Psychic Unconscious Structures.
every Shadow (Qlippothic) side has a Light side…meaning your Daemonic Shadow isnt seperate from your Angelic self…because there are both Receptive and Expressive traits (more than I feel like writing here).
[quote=“Biosynth, post:19, topic:8118”]All Qlippothic Work is is the empowerment of the Shadow Self with Light Energy to the extreme. One doesnt need to go this route via a JEWISH system if one realizes this. Knowing this…if you want to go beyond the bounds of traditional idea of Qlippoth… then what you do is change the Foundational (Unconscious Mind) informational content and empower it.
Now the tricky part is empowering it. What else is tricky is knowing thyself…but one can forcefully bypass this, but at a gamble of disrupting other Psychic Unconscious Structures.
every Shadow (Qlippothic) side has a Light side…meaning your Daemonic Shadow isnt seperate from your Angelic self…because there are both Receptive and Expressive traits (more than I feel like writing here).[/quote]
Your shadow exists as something separate until it dissolves and becomes integrated with the “higher self”. This won’t happen if you still see it as something like light v.s. dark, angelic v.s. daemonic, ect. Duality doesn’t exist when you reach the understanding of unity/nothingness.
