[quote=“taokua, post:11, topic:2206”] I was thinking along those lines
(also I’ve done in accordance with- no attention upon the seed from others, no-“sensed” attachment, fully invested into= let go… etc. and dispersed results,
stated to all I’m going to do XYZ and it seems unlikely and it happened (like at a friend’s wedding- it started to pour raining… said I’d “req” and then it did… dry and sunny (up till the limo started to pull out of the parking lot and in moments pouring again :)…
not concealed… and yet something to it… Key- I see plenty of “mundane” or logical or whatever you call it, plenty of “normal” reasons to keep biz to oneself (what is the real source-driver to impells one to tell-all or “show-off”… I think whether or not one does is little impact, per whether that “driver” is there. If that int’l-conflict, which would motivate one to not-conceal… even if conceal… still not unified? <and if not have that int’l fractionation, would one want to?> perhaps that is more the issue- ie “let go” via the Ritual, as NB and EA said in that one vid-interview… its not so much something you purposefully do (releasing attachment) it is a result (side-effect) Of the Working… maybe its related to something like that…
(not necessarily this specific “law”/principle, but others like I worry if may be included as sounds good (like some concepts that “it can’t hurt” vs is needed- like “need to be doing stuff- trying new things, put yourself out there” “not just expect the Ritual to do it for you” (implying a lot of baggage)…
but the issue is why wouldn’t somebody do things to move towards a goal… but that is different than saying it is “needed” to make it work (for ex, not to harp on this ex, but the thought seems to be a Rite can be used to “change the mind of another” even in a court-case, where they are motivated to do else, so you are trying to pressure the court-decision contrary to others-will… and yet the unspoken is, can change another’s motivation, but hard to have a ritual change “your-own” motivation (to motivate you to do, whatever is needed to get ___: ex to meet someone, if done right, should not only nudge things a bit to make more likely but should, intuit?, guide you to go where needed… vs your “consciously” trying to second-guess… but I see such is advice thrown in, cause sounds good, and wouldn’t seem right to not say (can’t say, don’t need to try and guess what you should do, so say you need to)… and ends up being perhaps a good-idea, but principle or unrelated? (ie less magickal principle and more just logical-in general).
Cause/random “pigeon-superstitioun” (see Mr. Nobody)… and not the first implication of that example… <what elements are needed, and what causes which?>.[/quote]
Interesting that you bring up a possible need for a driver.
I have heard that a curse is MORE effective (sometimes) if the target believes themselves to be cursed. If I were to say leave a dead black rooster on the door step of a neighbor as part of a curse they might see it and think “Wow, some damn kids and their Satanic nonsense.” However if I did the same in a Haitian neighborhood the residents of the house would be on the phone to a Hogun or Mambo lickedy split.
In the first case the curse would not have the victim psychologically feeding it, as such it may take longer to take hold, or lose some efficacy. In the second case there may be no curse but the victim creates one in their mind as they draw upon their beliefs.