Has anyone here tried this ritual called Met Kalfu’s Black Pin Trick in E.A Koetting book THE SPIDER & THE GREEN BUTTERFLY before?
I’m planning to give it a try very soon and I would like you guys to share your experiences with this ritual with me or any advice for me before I do this.
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It seems very accurate. I don’t practice the Vodou religion but I know here in Brazil some folk magick and Quimbanda spells that do basically the same that’s is taught by E.A, with the exception that you use your own power rather than of another spirit. Some Quimbandeiros (Quimbanda Priests and Priestess) can send Exus and Kiumbas (Kiumbas are basically dead spirits with a hot temper and without care they become parasites) to torment the head of a person or to control them.
In my opinion I think it will work very well, since it has foundation and a solid base to work on.
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Thank you for your comment.
Finally I recently did it and to my surprise it started working on my target in less than 12 hours. Met Kalfu is indeed not a joke loa.
He’s really a master in manipulation.
Wow 
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He indeed is, my friend. Very strong Loa.
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Interesting, can I ask what the purpose of the black pin trick is?
It’s baneful magick to remote influence the target via a poppet if I recall.
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Sure but there’s something I want to ask if maybe you can help me. Though the target started acting exactly towards my first command to him during the ritual. Now that the pin is in its head , how do I continue to influence him with my future commands?
Go get out the poppet, and command it via Met Kalfu, as he is still there, possessing the brain of your target who is the same thing as the poppet.
(You should not have to repeat the ritual to create the poppet. But if you discarded it, then I would say start over and make a new one, as your link to the target is now not available for you to use for this kind of sympathetic magick.)
As explained in the text: you gained complete control with the first ritual, so you still have it and you can keep commanding the same way you did the first command:
The caveat is, if the target has been able to exorcise Met Kalfu. Divination and intuition should be able to tell you if this has happened.
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No I haven’t discard the poppet. It’s still with me and the black pin is still in it’s headas well.
I will do it as you’re saying and see what happens again.
Will surely give you updates.
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Very interesting. This could be just the ticket.
I wonder to what extent it can circumvent the target’s will? I know, piece of string question depends on target etc.
I shall consider acquiring this book. Likely a while before i can find the time to digest it though.
I have virtually no experience with Haitian systems. Is it particularly complicated?
I wouldn’t call it a “system” exactly. It’s a modern Grimoire inspired by Haitian vodoun with several techniques. You don’t have to be a follower of the religion to use these and it doesn’t teach you the whole religion.
The above requires you to be able to get outdoors and find mud, I think from a stagnant pool or something.
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Yh from a stagnant pool
I understand why E.A said he’s not using this method unless nothing else seems to work.
If you want to manipulate someone for just something common then please I don’t recommend you to use this method. Use it only when you want to manipulate someone to help change big and important part of your life.
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By system I was more meaning the procedures or rituals taught within the book, rather than referring to the religion and its wider practices (I get that would be rather large).
So I grabbed the book on a kindle. I’ve only had a cursory flip through so far. Some of the content definitely won’t be doable for me given my living location and circumstances. Also personally, I don’t do the chicken thing. I get that that suits some folk, but its not in alignment with my own viewpoints so I won’t be doing those ones.
I’ve had a look at the pin ritual and it does seem intriguing. I would digest the whole book fully before attempting it though of course.
In terms of our environment here, there is one immediately apparent obstacle:
“From underneath stagnant water, find a lump of moldable clay”
You can buy moldable clay in shops here of course. But its not easily found in this part of the world in natural environments. We have plenty of mud. Plenty of dirt. But clay is very hard to find in nature in most of the country.
I wonder if bought clay wet down with stagnant water would do? Thoughts?
So in this context, would removing a variable that has been an outstanding and problematic issue be a big change of the nature that could be accomplished I wonder? Ie, could the variable be manipulated into making itself cease to be a variable?
Sorry, heavy on the euphemisms here
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“From underneath stagnant water, find a lump of moldable clay”
I reckon so, if you put the clay in a bucket outside and let the water and clay sit for a week or so until it goes stagnant, then reach though and pull it out, it should have that energy of “being lifted out of stagnant water”. Stagnant just means not flowing and smells bad, so maybe toss in some dead leaves or something to rot and make it slightly icky, if It’s growing algae by the end that’s a good sign.
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