agree with that too
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Awesome topic and Lady Evaâs responses are unbias and well articulated as usual.
The OP is in fear of these spirits whether they are the usual suspects or likely parasites posing.
Either way from my readings on here, to be in fear allows any being to start to use that against you and start using you, draining your energy and ruining your life.
As we are the ones with the power here it seems like any entity if given the option will take as much as they can. Just like regular people, they will take and take if your weak and donât stand up for yourself.
Im definitely no expert but thatâs what Iâm seeing.
Also Iâm reading Demons of Magick and the fact these rituals involve using arch angels and shem angels to help constrain, watch over, influence the demons work just shows that these demons are not to be messed by ppl with fear.
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I canât help but think about a book by John Kreiter where he suggests that the people who report being kidnapped by aliens are probably being attacked by a very powerful parasite.
This story made me believe that the hellish things happening to the OP might be a very powerful parasite attacking him or it might be a spiritual attack from other occultists, who sent demons after him, just like Lady_Eva said.
If these experiences are real I feel very bad for you OP. I wouldnât wish so much pain for anyone (except in some extreme cases like rapists/abusers/murderers making the life of others hell).
All I can suggest is to protect yourself as much as you can, ask for some angels or benevolent spirits to break/freeze the curses, ask for protection from archangels, banish as often as you can and perform some uncrossings and exorcisms.
Some psychological help wouldnât hurt either.
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I would preform a banishing ritual, fumigate your home heavily with copal, Palo Santo, sage, and cedar. Open every window and get some high vibe music going either 432 Hz, 528 Hz, 963 Hz or the god frequency which I cant recall the frequency of but a quick Google will solve that. Also get some holy water and blessed salt from a catholic church. They do work. Put that on all windowseals and door frames. Id also get some small statues of st Michael and st george and bury them in the four corners around the perimeter of your home and property.
Consecrate your home under st george and st Michael for protection and safe keeping.
I grew up in a heavily Roman catholic home. I had similar experiences, not as drastic but headed that way. I had an exorcism preformed by the head exorcisit in the US when i wass 17. (I wouldnt suggest that as it caused more issues for me than it solved) but it needed to be done. It took me ten years to get to a point where i could confront my own inner demons. Once I was able to start doing that a lot of my own issues went away and the daemons i have begun working with have been nothing but tender and caring towards me. Blunt lessons but nothing I cant handle.
In fact i second what @Lady_Eva said about Belial being aggressive our first meeting as well. But his doing that made me aware of a parasite that was using my sexual energy and lying to me and belial soing what he did also made me more accountable for my own thoughts and actions.
Just like working with asmoday has made me more prudish lately which has never EVER happened to me before. I normally live in a 17 year old boys dirty xxx brain half the time. Always have lol. So ive been really surprised by my lack of imagination since working with asmoday lmao
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When my journey on that path started backfiring, I experienced something similar but they never hurt my family. I suffered for a while and then moved on with my life.
Conemct with your Ancestral Gods or any other deity you feel connected to. Ever since Iâve been working with the Norse Pantheon (not my Ancestral Gods but a Pantheon Iâm connected to), I noticed their and the Abrahamic Godâs influence is almost completely gone.
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Iâm reminded of mortal kombat!!! lol. The evil bad guy canât just take over a planet universe without fighting in tournament or the selected fighter giving up. The same can be said of our spirit and will. Other beings just canât take it without your approval or fight you for it. And to fight you for it, you have to allow that battle. If you say no in all regards to a battle , the spirit canât do shit. Universal law?? 
Demons/angels/spirits canât do nothing if you refuse. Many people donât say they refuse. They just let things happen being quiet or passive. One have to have clear message of NO. I refuse your mortal kombat challenge. haha.
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Eh, people get what they need in this life. Ig if I were in your shoes i would ask what about this situation do I need? Why do I need to experience this? And sometimes energies are just incompatible.
âThe world in reverseâ, would you say the phrase âSewmewmani Batasnosâ accurately describes that place? I understand if you canât tell but I am curious.
Ime demons seem to like that i spar with them. And even when I cheat during. They are low vibrational entities (for the most part, Lucifer doesnât seem that way), so naturally they are going to operate at that level, and want you to do so also.
I will keep this in mind though. I need to watch that I ride the current not let it sweep me away. Undoubtedly this is a path of power, just need to make sure it is your power and not someone elseâs.
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If OP accused shady figures within the mainstream religions of doing this, no-one would bat an eyelid, let alone keep telling him he is what he denies being, or calling him mad. Just sayinâ⌠
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Over-generalization, a good bit would still do it. Not everyone here is gullible and not question things.
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Leaving the other things out of discussion: Fact is, you can summon specific entites and ask them to do all these things. Raping, killing, torturing, bend free will and anything of the likes. And, they will gladly do them and will have no concern about it. Itâs not the summoner him-/herself doing them, but the beings summoned/petitioned to.
So, that opens up the question, why shouldnât they (or some, or many) enjoy these things in general?
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Dude claimed the below on another thread:
Actually I am the AntiChrist, I was annointed the AntiChrist by Satan, and the trinity in November 2019 and I consensually accepted.
I rest my case. As far as Iâm concerned, he could be claiming heâs Napoleon and it would be equally plausible.
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Magick done by commanding spirits in the name of an authority they recognise is pretty conventional, thatâs why so many old grimoires give detailed heirarchies.
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Okay well⌠I wasnât really gonna say anything and then I read on and I decided to throw in my two cents.
In my opinion some are trustworthy however not all are.
In my own experience I trust them. When I was a kid, 4 or 5 years old I had what I thought at the time was a witch fly into my room through the window and stand in the corner. I didnât see anything but a hat and hands and a dark mass. This entity then tried to take my blankets from me. And I pulled back and won. I ran to my parents room and fell asleep. When I awoke they told me it was a dream however I knew I was awake.
From that day I have never seen anything. Not in my minds eye not in real life. As it was made to protect me from being scared and living in fear.
As I grew older I had a fascination with the paranormal/witches/demons. I was raised in a very catholic home however my fascination never transferred to Yahweh or his angels.
At 13 I realized I had a guardian demon but who I did not find out for another 9 years.
Once I found out about the one guardian I quickly realized there were not one but many
And I say guardian because when I was 8 years old he saved my life.
When I think of that memory his energy and his image is all over it.
That day I climbed a tree that was old and dying. The branches were like spikes. That I decided I could grab and climb on to a long branch maybe 8ft from the ground. While climbing down I had slipped.
I got to the ground. The spiked branch had ripped my skin open on my chest 5 inches wide.
I yelled and ran to my parents. We were out in the middle of cottage country but got to the hospital. I ended up with 24 stitches. 4 external stitches and 20 internal.
When I was under anaesthesia I floated from my body. And then I remember holding a big tree twisting round and down to a place I had never been there before. And then nothing.
I learned later this is the place my guardian met me and took me to a safe place to get over what happened.
I came out stronger. And I healed quickly.
The spike was less than an inch from piercing my heart and lungs. The doctors thought I was absolutely lucky to be alive.
I have absolutely never experienced anything untrustworthy from them. Yes Iâve been tested with dreams that are not for the faint of heart and donât doubt they love to create mayhem and have fun. But I trust them.
I took me 18 years to discover who the man was who was in my room that night and who saved my life. If I was crazy. If it was real. Who they all were.
But, It was Lucifer who saved my life. And has always protected me either through himself or other demons. I have only felt love and comfort from them.
My 91 year old grandfather had a heart attack last week. I had asked for their help and he is already back home and doing well.
To add not to say your lying however your story sounds straight out of a horror movie.
And from what I have learned Yahweh is the Untrustworthy God. Tells you what you can and cannot do then still judges your soul when you die? No thanks. Does not give you much knowledge other than a book written over 2000 years ago that has been rewritten to fit each religion to how the want. Such as that the Jewish culture has Lilith in the Old Testament however the christians removed that part. To my understanding god tempts man with one hand and offers salvation with the other. That he sent the snake in the garden. And he both the good and bad.
However this doesnât mean that demons cannot commit these acts as well. Inflict torment and pain. But not to the extent that you describedâŚ
it feels as if studying these beings you were highly unprepared mentally and were not stable enough to do so. Their names have power. Even saying it in your head they can hear you⌠you went in deep.
studying them is like walking on a tight line of sanity and insanity. In which you have fallen off the wrong endâŚ
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This story reminds me of an ex-friend of mine who confided to me that Lucifer saved her life. Lucifer appeared and saved her while she was cutting herself for the purpose of committing suicide. After a few years I lost her contacts ⌠and she explains that she wanted to become a nun and that something horrible had happened to her. In short, I look for his name and surname on google ⌠and I come across a Catholic site where it was explained that this person was possessed etc. In my opinion, she came into contact with a parasite who pretended to be Lucifer. But other hypotheses could be put forward âŚ
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Learned something new again!
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Itâs odd that I came across this post. Just a few nights ago, or so, I had an interesting dream experience.
A man explained to me that he visited Hell, and saw it as being truly hell. He said that there was a specific group of demons that carried him to a specific level of hell every night (?). They would tease him as they did it, and they loved torturing him or whatever it is that would happen. I tried to explain that I had seen Hell myself as well. But I was free to come and go as I pleased. I wanted to try and help him understand that he must be seeing things wrong, because my experience was so different.
What we fail to remember sometimes as practitioners with positive demonic interactions and relationships is that we are subjective individuals on spiritual paths that ultimately only belong to us. Everyone, even those who have similar paths, will have different experiences and relationships. No two souls are the same. I am still learning the nature of angels and demons, and Yahweh. However what I can say, as Lady Eva pointed out, is that we all have our biases.
I believe demons and angels alike seek to empower us and help us become as they are. For most of us on this forum, demons can be rough when they need to be, but are generally loving and protective. This doesnât mean they are loving and protective with everyone.
I do stand by the notion that if they were truly involved in this, it must be for the sake of the OPâs spiritual development, and I think the proof is already in the original post:
Assuming OP is telling the truth about his experience, this is in my opinion exactly what I would expect from demons. They will sometimes play the evil bastards if thatâs what you need to grow. To the outside, it looks wrong. For the person experiencing it, demons may truly seem to be the enemy. But at the end of the day, they got you to conquer your fears, face a powerful enemy, and overcome it. You are stronger now than you ever were.
âShaitanâ in Hebrew means âadversaryâ. In the Hebrew âha-satanâ, âthe adversaryâ did all kinds of terrible things to Job. But he did it to test him, and called âfire from heavenâ. His purpose, from the garden to now, is to help us overcome our limitations and dependencies. It is never easy, but he is clearly effectiveâŚ
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When I was practicing the Roman Catholic faith, also watching shit tons of exorcism movies and documentaries and poltergeist shows, i had more issues with âbadâ demonic forces than i do now after having gone through the changes I have mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually.
I think you are spot on with your assessment. And with the experiences Ive had in the past i can say that the things the op is experiencing are very plausible. I was on my way to having those same issues when I was younger.
I will add in that from my experiences currently that when we look to worship any being or entity outside our godself or the single original undefinable energy and spark that started it all we open ourselves up to a whole plethora of issues as we leave our souls in the hands of beings and entities whos true motives we donât really know and whoâs definition of help may be vastly different than our own.
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Every. Single. Time. I read that name I think of the wheel of time series lmao.
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Sounds like a poltergeist mimic tbh đ¤ˇ