We do not share similar values. That is all.
Sending an incubus wonāt do anything, unless he can perceive them, Iād listen to angelia, otherwise based on reading how this thread has turned youāre wasting your breath on anything else lol. Besides relying on someone else will not do much as you can see.
7 Likes
Can you explain more what do you meanš
I do not sympathise with your motivation. I canāt really say it any clearer.
Ok thank you
ā¦it would be a waste of time and energy to try to get this person to change their mind, or make them āsee the world in their eyesā. Iām not saying itās impossible, Iām just saying this guy wouldnāt be someone I would waste my time and energy on. Unless he was constantly harassing me, or put his hands on me, I would just ignore him. The world is full of assholes that are full of hatred for certain groups of people be it because of their sexual preference, gender, race etc. It would be wonderful if you can change their views, but unfortunately you wonāt always be able to.
I really donāt have much else to offer aside from that.
3 Likes
I have no dog in this fight, but not sharing similar values is arguably what the lhp is about, isnt it?
Sinister is more of a just ask a lot of questions kind of person 
not really a āhereās how to do thisā or a āhere Iāll help youā
I do enjoy philosophy. It is my crack.
2 Likes
Wanting to teach him a lesson says a lot more about you than it does him. You will encounter lots of intolerant people in your life - and not all of them can or will be changed. A sorcererās energy is a limited resource he must pick his battles wisely. Everyone grows and matures at their own pace based on their soulās evolutionary stage. If you force that change to occur in this person, it might only lead to severe neurosis/inner conflict but not any real tolerance for the gay community. If youāre really hell bent on this, why not send him the ability to feel empathy instead? True empathy can be excruciatingly difficult and punishing for the intolerant and itās more likely to open his eyes than simply forcing a sexuality change. If you do work with Belial on this like someone mentioned, keep in mind that he will expose your own psyche to its pitfalls as much as he will your targetās. If youāre coming from a place of self-righteousness, he will knock you down a notch until you find out what your true motivations are for doing this.
9 Likes
@issam - based on what DarkestKnight said, DO you know why this person hates gays? He could already be gay and be externalising his hatred. He could have been taught this by family and not know another way to think. Your working will be more successful if you address the root cause.
If there are friends he treats badly that you want to protect, and easier and effective route would be a freezer spell to cut his energy off from them, and/or, as discussed above Belial is good at helping people work on limiting beliefs - search here for āevocation guideā and call Belial, ask him to help this person grow out of fear and hate.
6 Likes
Oh yeah heās already gay. Chances are more than likely he loves the cock. Almost every single homophobe out there is secretly gay yet too afraid to accept it about themselves. This of course leads to a resentment and jealousy of those who have the courage to live as themselves in the open. This resentment is the entire basis for their hate. Most normal people could care less about what a person does with their own genitalia and who with.
5 Likes
āAlmost everyā? That is rather presumptuous.
Once upon a time that may have been true but the LGBTQ12345 are protected minorities in most Western states now and to be against them, on any level, is regarded as an extremist belief which can cost people their livelihoods, children, and/or land them in prison for hate speech. The most āhateā the LGBTQ community receive is from the tolerant majority not the intolerant minority, in the form of jokes without malicious intent. I wouldnāt say that fits the definition of āstunningā or ābraveā, personally.
3 Likes
You know a person but is this person consistantly in your presence?
Are they an issue besides their views?
Have they acted on that hate by physically harming?
Are they paychologically harming others?
If this is just some nut down the street its best to just avoid them. If its a coworker then perhaps avoidance would work as well. Complaints can be made to superiors. If a superior, there is the ACLU and groups for discrimination.
Chances are this person hates a lot of things including themself.
They might be gay and might not. This wouldnāt make them all fluffy lovey dovey but more likely a twisted psycho who hates themself even more. Potentially, they could act upon it and become a serial killer or something.
Shun the person and avoid.
1 Like
You canāt.
Whatever dude you know damned well thatās not what Iām talking about here. Youāve read my posts and should know Iām a reasonable and logical person. Iām not talking about harmless jokes and unreasonable sensitivity to them. Iām talking about people who hold signs outside the home of a veteran that say shit like " Aids is the cure for gays" or āGod hates gaysā etc etc. Iām talking about āREALā homophobes.
1 Like
Homophobia: the fear someone of the same sex as your partner will treat them better than you can.
4 Likes
Thatās a very good point.
1 Like
Maybe this guy was abused or molested as a kid and has grown his hatred out of that?
Maybe he is just a bigoted asshole?
Maybe he was raised in a very intolerant household?
Maybe he just doesnāt like having gay people flaunt their Fab in his face all the time and he canāt flaunt his straight in theirs. Hypocritical behavior is sometimes the root of much hatred and anger. š¤·
Or maybe he is a closet gay?
Id say if he isnāt bothering you directly and is only being an asshole to your friends. Maybe your friends need to avoid him entirely and focus on the positives in their lives instead of the assholes?
Ive found that works best when dealing with bullies, thab wasting your time, energy and will power on them anyways.
2 Likes
There are so many misconceptions about homosexuality. The big one being is that a person is gay because of the opposite sex and a resentment towards them. While Iāll acknowledge that may be the case for some, in a large part it has nothing to do with the opposite sex. Itās about themselves and the people they are attracted to.
Homophobia is merely an unwillingness to learn about a culture unique to their own and how to mind their own damn business about who other people are fucking.
There is something to be said about thinkingā¦fluid and crystallized. āCanāt teach old dog new tricksā is a real thing. With some exceptions, crystallized thinking is an inevitable part of brain development and aging. For many, they are born with crystallized thinking. So while Iām adamant in respecting and accepting the lgbtq Community, there is a lack of understanding on our part for those who are neurologically incapable of percieving their encironment in new ways. Each side doesnāt want to sit down and have that conversation.